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Well put Bill except you forgot the part about the 235 being better looking.=
.. . .=20
:  )

BTW, my 235 has virtually all the mods that came out on the 320/360 includin=
g the big tail, forward hinge canopy, bottom hinge flaps, taller gear ect...=
 although it was a ton of extra work to incorporate them...

I saw your pictures of your Europe trip...
Looked like a serious adventure to me...
Randy Snarr

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:01 AM, "Bill Harrelson" <n5zq@verizon.net> wrote:

> Paul,
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> First of all, welcome to the forum. This is a great place to get answers t=
o the questions that you seek. There is a huge amount of collective knowledg=
e available on the LML. Many times two different answers to the same questio=
n will be diametrically opposed. This is usually a good thing...gives you a c=
hance to hear different points of view. As long as it's kept civil (almost a=
lways the case) and doesn't degenerate into name calling (rare and unfortuna=
te) it will help you broaden your prospective on many Lancair related subjec=
ts.
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> Here's my attempt at an answer to your 235/320/360 question.
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> The 235 was the first production kit from Lancair. The 320 included severa=
l improvements over the 235. These include bottom hinged flaps, oleo nose st=
rut as well as a longer and wider fuselage. By the way, there is no airframe=
 difference between a 320 and a 360. It just depends on which engine you han=
g on it.  With a 320 you don't have to choose between the capability to go "=
160KTAS at 6gph" and "190KTAS at 9gph". The 320/360 can do both. As a matter=
 of fact, my 320 will burn considerably less than 6 gph if I slow down to 16=
0 KTAS.  Both are quite tiny airplanes. You need to learn to pack very caref=
ully in either but the 320/360 gives you at least a little more room. My wif=
e and I flew our 320 to Europe several years ago and were able to pack for a=
 6 week trip and include a raft and survival gear as well. I can't say that i=
t would be impossible to do that in a 235, but it would certainly be more ch=
allenging. I know of at least 1 other 360 that has flown to Europe and back.=

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> I believe that finding a well built airframe is the most important factor w=
hether you choose a 235 or a 320/360. There are good and bad examples of bot=
h out there. You can re-design the panel and replace the engine but if you'v=
e got a badly built airframe it's more difficult to rectify from a practical=
 standpoint.  The 320/360 airframe does give you a little more room and that=
, in some instances, makes it easier to work on (there are some VERY tight s=
pots that you'll need to squeeze into for maintenance in either). There are m=
ore examples of the 320/360 airframe in existence. This might give you a bit=
 more choice in the market. There are further modifications that have been i=
ncluded in some 320/360s that are not available on the 235. Examples would i=
nclude forward hinged canopy, extended engine mount, MKII tail, outback gear=
, etc). You can find opinions here on the LML concerning the relative merits=
 of any of these mods.
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> Finally, both are fast, efficient, amazing airplanes. As you have seen fro=
m our recent stall discussion, both can kill you quite easily if you don't r=
espect them and learn their characteristics. Lancairs are not difficult to f=
ly...but they are different. Different from any other plane you might have f=
lown. Which ever Lancair you choose, GET TRAINING from a qualified, Lancair e=
xperienced instructor. Join LOBO. The training decision is, by far, the most=
 important decision you will make regardless of which airframe you choose.
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> Good luck. Let us know if we can help.
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> Bill Harrelson
> N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs
> N6ZQ  IV  75 hrs
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> -----Original Message----- From: Paul Besing
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:56 AM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Purchase Advice LNC2
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> Hey guys=E2=80=A6.I'm a little torn during my education process.
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> Here is where I started.
> Purchase a 235 for $35k, and put another $15k in it for the panel I want, e=
nding at $50k (assuming no other desires).
> Enjoy 160KTAS at 6gph.
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> Now, considering $70k on a good 320/360 that is 90% how I want, and enjoy 1=
90KTAS at 9gph, and a bit more room and better climb.
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> My question is, to most of you is $20k (net increase from my $50k 235) wor=
th the room, performance, yet higher fuel flow? Anyone done both?
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> Thanks for the education.
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> Paul Besing
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