X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:08:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog119.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.147] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with SMTPS id 6001585 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:04:58 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.126.144.147; envelope-from=lancair@meier.cc Received: from kdn6.futureweb.at ([85.125.90.138]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob119.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUOyJ1XrJoAovhT8WJ2cy33DVNFjcRDGB@postini.com; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:04:57 UTC Received: from [192.168.168.9] (sjon195149219169.surfer.sjon.at [195.149.219.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by kdn6.futureweb.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r08L4Kig020339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:04:21 +0100 From: Christian Meier Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_423E2648-7EC2-489A-9A82-B61B8FBBD5D5" X-Original-Message-Id: <93047CAD-0BEA-4D7B-88AA-291BED1227D7@meier.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: parachutes, gear speeds X-Original-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:04:25 +0100 References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) --Apple-Mail=_423E2648-7EC2-489A-9A82-B61B8FBBD5D5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Chris, your 2 piece carbon doors are working great. No flexing, no noise. After = loosing one original main door inflight, I'm very happy with the new = system. I also made a longer hinge on the inner doors. Since then I had no more = broken hinge. Also the inner door flutter after engine start is = minimized. At what max. speeds can I safely extend my gear? I actually use 120kts = for gear down. When I arrive in our tight circuit, my gears are good = speed brake. I think the front gear is the weak point as it has to move into the = airstream. The mains move sidewards, so the air load is less harmful. At what speeds can I start to partly lower the flaps down to +5=B0 or = +10=B0 (below fuselage fairing). My flaps have a hinge on all the = length and also the 7bids glass under the wing side of the hinge at all the length. Max extension speed = is 100kts. Christian www.lancair.at Am 08.01.2013 um 18:02 schrieb Chris Zavatson = : > Ed, > Do you have the standard or outback gear? > The standard gear has a distinct advantage with respect to speed = limitations.=20 > The original Outback Gear added a lot of surface area and a lot of = camber to the doors. Also, the two-piece design cantilevered much of = the area of the outboard door out beyond the attach point. This door is = the week link. A handful have failed in flight and departed the = aircraft. The outboard doors flex quite a bit under aerodynamic loads. > On the other hand, I found the the outback inner gear door can = withstand the full 200 KTAS cruise speed - even when detached from the = actuator. I had a rod end bearing fail back at about 150 hours. I was = pleasantly surprised to see the door remained on the aircraft. -The rod = end bearings have been replaced with stronger units made of a better = alloy- > Back to door speeds..... > I am now flying with a three-piece outback gear door set-up. Like = with the standard gear the center door is attached to a new trailing = link on the main gear. These door effectively have no speed limit. The = only caution then becomes the gusto with which the gear locks into = place. I have gone as high as 160 KIAS for extension speed.=20 > The impetus for these doors was not to increase gear speeds, but to = keep them from flexing open in flight and turning into air brakes. =20 > http://www.n91cz.com/Outback-Gear/Outback-source.pdf > =20 > =20 > Chris Zavatson > N91CZ, 1400 hrs > 360std > http://www.n91cz.net/ >=20 > From: Ed Gray > To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:20 AM > Subject: [LML] parachutes, gear speeds >=20 > On recent trip in my new (50 hr.) 360, a misadjustment prevented my = left inner gear door closing. I elected to continue and gradually = increased speed, seemed the faster I went the smoother it got. Finished = trip (900 mi.) at 200 mph. No apparent damage to the door. Query=97at = what speeds do gear doors depart? I have used 135 mph as max gear down = speed=97Now thinking 160 might be ok if needed to get down quick. = Anyone know the answer? > =20 > Getting out of front hinge canopy with a parachute? I haven=92t tried = it, but my guess is you would need to get inverted and slow way down to = push it open. If rides about 2 inches open if opened in flight. Don=92t = try to close it in flight unless you have a good pull strap and on = autopilot. > =20 > Finally, has anyone gotten a Dynon Skyview autopilot tuned for = vertical hold without hunting? If so please send me your settings. Ed = Gray Dallas >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_423E2648-7EC2-489A-9A82-B61B8FBBD5D5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 www.lancair.at





Am = 08.01.2013 um 18:02 schrieb Chris Zavatson <chris_zavatson@yahoo.com>:=

http://www.n= 91cz.com/Outback-Gear/Outback-source.pdf
 
 
Chris = Zavatson
N91CZ, 1400 = hrs
360std
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= From: Ed Gray <egraylaw@swbell.net>
= To: lml@lancaironline.net
= Sent: Tuesday, January = 8, 2013 3:20 AM
Subject: [LML] parachutes, gear speeds
 =

On = recent trip in my new (50 hr.) 360, a misadjustment prevented my left = inner gear door closing.  I elected to continue and gradually = increased speed, seemed the faster I went the smoother it got.  = Finished trip (900 mi.) at 200 mph.  No apparent damage to the = door.  Query=97at what speeds do gear doors depart?  I have = used 135 mph as max gear down speed=97Now thinking 160 might be ok if = needed to get down quick.  Anyone know the answer?
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Getting out of front hinge canopy with a = parachute?  I haven=92t tried it, but my guess is you would need to = get inverted and slow way down to push it open.  If rides about 2 = inches open if opened in flight.  Don=92t try to close it in flight unless you have a good = pull strap and on autopilot.
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Finally, has anyone gotten a Dynon Skyview = autopilot tuned for vertical hold without hunting?  If so please = send me your settings.  Ed Gray    = Dallas


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