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From: Jeff Edwards <vtailjeff@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Floatation Devices (or full survival gear) flying over the Great Lakes
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I carry vests and a raft. I wear the vests when over water below 10,000 feet=
 and beyond gliding distance to shore.

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On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
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> My flights over/around the Great Lakes have been principally to/from OSH, a=
nd up to Thunder Bay, Ontario. As you have already determined, flight at 14-=
15,000' in an IV-P will keep you within gliding range of a land just about a=
nywhere over the lakes area. I do not, therefore, carry flotation gear durin=
g those infrequent flights. If I lived near, and flew over the water regular=
ly, I would probably keep at least inflatable vests in the cockpit.=20
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> When we flew to the Caymens last year, and for other planned over-water jo=
urneys, I've borrowed both a raft and inflatable vests for the trips. Having=
 had to don this type of gear in practice during AF water survival training,=
 I am a believer that you need to be wearing it while flying if you intend t=
o use it. This is borne out by experience within the Air Force...if it's not=
 on, and you are not well versed in its use, it probably won't be of help in=
 an emergency.
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> My two cents...
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> Bob Pastusek
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [LML] Floatation Devices (or full survival gear) flying over the G=
reat Lakes
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> My wife has asked how many of you have floatation devices or full survival=
 gear in the plane when transiting over the Great Lakes? =20
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> I'll be at FL220-FL230 and have a 20:1 glide ratio (LIVP, Feathering Prop)=
.  I understand the math.
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> But how many of you carry floatation devices?
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> Jeff L
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