X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:18:07 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTP id 5448117 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:16:47 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.163; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q2JIG7H8020383 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:16:07 -0400 Received: from [10.72.45.80] (mobile-198-228-204-031.mycingular.net [198.228.204.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9A8E1E00008F; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:16:04 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8L1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Original-Message-Id: <51C61520-067A-4775-B7E4-4641B36E2EFF@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8L1) From: vtailjeff@aol.com Subject: Re: [LML] Top End Overhaul (TSIO550E) at 440 hrs TT (LIVP) X-Original-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:15:58 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:403995840:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29044f6777e46b08 X-AOL-IP: 198.228.204.31 Never mind....440tt. That seems to be about right in my experience. 500 hour= s on these jugs before they go flat. Jeff Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2012, at 6:17 AM, "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" w= rote: > Lancair Friends, >=20 > During my annual inspection, I found six cylinders with low compressions (= 20-30 over 80). Yes, Master Orifice and all the right techniques. We shoul= d know by now that BORESCOPE is the important step, and this was done. Exha= ust valve seats were eroded and pitted, causing leakage. Valve face had mil= d thermal changes and stems were good. A repair was planned. >=20 > Cylinders were pulled and inspected, confirming exhaust valve seats were t= he problem, and replacements were planned. Further inspection showed some m= ild corrosion on some rods, wrist pins, even the cylinder barrels. Evidence= of moisture in the oil was apparent (more on this below). I decided I woul= d get the ECI Nickel+Carbide coating (CermiNil process). The turn around ti= me would have been four weeks minimum plus further reassembly and shipping, o= r I could get ready to go refurb'd compete cylinders, already coated and rea= ssembled, immediately. Hence, a complete Top End Overhaul. >=20 > Discussions regarding why this 2006 fast build TCM engine (flying since 20= 07, now out of warranty) was having this problem revealed several illuminati= ng tidbits. One custom engine shop said "those cylinders are doomed from th= e first time you run the engine." Others explained that these engines are a= ssembled with factory-style production, not custom production, and so parts a= re placed and efficiencies taken to improve production. Another explained t= hat the valve seats are pre-reamed rather than post-reamed after installatio= n, creating an opportunity for poor interaction with the valve edge, malposi= tion and wobble, leading to early failure. This appears to be a common issu= e for the engines around my 2006 era. It's not confirmed, but there is rumo= r that their practice of using pre-reamed guides ended after they finished u= sing up their inventory in late 2007. >=20 > The moisture in the engine is presumed to come from the hanger's humidity,= a result of poor pitch of the asphalt, seepage under the hanger door/edges,= trapped moisture inside the hanger. I fly once or twice a week, oil gets t= o 200*F typically before I open the oil door). I have not opened and vented= the oil filler cap after flight (and I will now). I may add a dehumidifier= in the hanger, and/or engine dessicator (ex, from Tempest) (comments welcom= ed). I will see about moving hangers or more effectively sealing the perime= ter of my hanger floor. Other ideas are welcomed. >=20 > I have Chelton and full engine monitoring. The engine's CAUTION warnings c= ome on at a conservative 380*F CHT, REDLINE at 400*F, and only twice has CHT= on two cylinders reached 412*F. Oil consumption has been low. Engine oil a= nalysis every 50 hours has not been revealing. I fly LOP and do the "Big Mi= xture Pull" shortly after take off, with 19 gph, 34"/2500 being a typical cl= imb climb setting, occasionally keeping this in cruise vs 31.5". >=20 > Just sharing my recent experience with an expensive engine problem that's h= appened too early. >=20 > Jeff Liegner > Sparta, NJ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >