X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:05:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.95] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with SMTP id 5386782 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:51:27 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.95; envelope-from=flycassutts@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2012 22:50:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2012 22:50:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2012 22:50:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 91769.15108.bm@omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12435 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2012 22:50:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b7J80xpLYcBKctGr2uRS2yPE1itK11S/b6VDb7Lx3OM70+26v7gz1ZtHyT0U3TLHCRGq5ncYrGHFjAmYIoDu7EgL8WH//R113QMrU+J7JA9rqIZElmP0v26C5qapFXefid7Tj6Ya5C5kRKhD1lTmE552ztKO5PoEzPOPou9a6YY=; X-YMail-OSG: cGKgEaMVM1mdJIaZdfd2M1mV702lbMNy5fQ_220gmn4vuI0 HYI1VVss2tPU8T2lqKbk6RrfTBi_icXek6IIrFmwCX3ISzypOCBsghmoWsTs zBay1q2Lq0J4qh_41pZj8dJsEzo83Wp0sN2G.TWNRxEo3FkNl.YBnd.tlFkz MaDyWfxIzJsmLJJJ7kIHTgGtYmM3v3khi4eFMqH_r3w_OEIFBKizrU0rCUmZ YEfEY1K4hFrYhmYdE6EwQadbFgLz1WLlvFIpjnASljsMRWyQ6x_3RRU73qiX xtNVdVS.HzbsfEqIoPMDrO0HNb1ycindfdb.oKDUOZPayhAZkSOOmAWyoZtg F8umbIV5YEzcYkDYnm9Lf5xCWWAG6IUlZ8pOmgvrjFnNZurtcrHvI7pSrYWe dl6EvqymQI4U6H.zipm_TaDxS91MM3Oqi..P_S_3Yej0ch5aMSOP6VOW1rWQ HkQdtZCjYGpDne7qqYr598fK28vwLG_nPX_YhJvhwa1UtVV0G_VXoG3o71g- - Received: from [174.29.104.79] by web160802.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:50:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.331537 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1328655050.88279.YahooMailNeo@web160802.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:50:50 -0800 (PST) From: Art Jensen Reply-To: Art Jensen Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Tempest spark plugs X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="485266291-154149902-1328655050=:88279" --485266291-154149902-1328655050=:88279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received my call from Shane at Tech. Support for Champion.=A0 The most inte= resting topic of discussion was the changing of resistors in these plugs th= at has been discussed before on the LML.=A0 Shane tells me that there is a = proprietary cement that is used on the screws inside these plugs.=A0 Theref= ore, there is not a field service type maintenance that can be done on thes= e plugs to change the resistors.=A0=A0 Probably like many of you I was unde= r the impression that when the resistors went to 5000 ohms and beyond they = should be scrapped.=A0 Shane did not know where this information comes from= .=0A=0AAt any rate, as I indicated at the beginning of this discussion, I h= ad no complaints with my Champion plugs, rather it is the unique design of = the Tempest plugs that had me wanting to try them.=A0 Unless, someone can t= ell me a benefit to be gained from the fine wire and/or the Tempest brand, = I expect I will just stay with the massive plug and spend the money saved o= n gas.=0A=0AArt Jensen=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:= Bill Wade =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0AS= ent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:18 PM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Tempest spark p= lugs=0A =0AWhat's the problem with platinum? I'm running fine wires in both= my IO-550 and TCM IO-360.=0A=0AI haven't noticed any problems after 300+ h= ours on each one. -Bill Wade=0A=0A-----Original Message----- From: Lorn H O= lsen=0ASent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:28 PM=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.ne= t=0ASubject: [LML] Re: Tempest spark plugs=0A=0AArt,=0A=0AIridium spark plu= gs will last for 2,000 hours. With the Champion plugs, at 500 to 800 hours,= you will either have to buy massive plugs to swap the resisters or buy new= iridium plugs. I went to the junk yard and pulled good resisters out of us= ed massive plugs. The Tempest plug resisters will stay good for the life of= the plug.=0A=0AOther than the resisters, you will not be able to tell the = difference between the iridium plugs. Make sure that you don't get the olde= r platinum type.=0A=0ATo buy:=0A=0AFor good service with spark plugs call L= inda Lou, Inc. in Memphis, Tn. All Linda sells are plugs. She has replaced = dropped plugs for me in the past. Linda also gave me the number of a Champi= on rep. I will talk to him in the near future and see if resisters or repla= cements are available for the high resistance Champion plugs.=0A=0A800-824-= 9912=0A=0AHer prices for plugs are:=0A=0ATempest: $51.00=0AChampion: $89.95= =0A=0ALorn=0A=0AOn Feb 7, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote:=0A= =0A> From: Art Jensen =0A> Date: February 6, 2012 7:= 50:13 PM EST=0A> =0A> All,=0A> =0A> Would like to hear from everyone using = the tempest spark plugs. Are you satisfied with them? Do you think they are= better than Champion, and why? Are you using the massive or fine wire? Hel= p me make an informed decision.=0A> =0A> I am getting ready to order a new = set of plugs. I currently use the RHB32E by Champion in my IO-550-N. I have= no complaints with these plugs but wonder if the Tempest with their one pi= ece resistor design is better as their ad would suggest.=0A> =0A> Thank you= for your input=0A> =0A> Art Jensen=0A=0A--=0ALorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA= , ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst=0ADynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dyna= comm.us=0ALNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan=0A= =0A=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lm= l/List.html =0A=0A=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.= net:81/lists/lml/List.html --485266291-154149902-1328655050=:88279 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Received my call from Shane at Tech. Support for Champion.  The= most interesting topic of discussion was the changing of resistors in thes= e plugs that has been discussed before on the LML.  Shane tells me tha= t there is a proprietary cement that is used on the screws inside these plu= gs.  Therefore, there is not a field service type maintenance that can= be done on these plugs to change the resistors.   Probably like many of you I was under the impression that when th= e resistors went to 5000 ohms and beyond they should be scrapped.  Sha= ne did not know where this information comes from.
=
At any rate, as I indica= ted at the beginning of this discussion, I had no complaints with my Champion plugs, rather it is the unique design of the T= empest plugs that had me wanting to try them.  Unless, someone can tel= l me a benefit to be gained from the fine wire and/or the Tempest brand, I = expect I will just stay with the massive plug and spend the money saved on = gas.

Art Jensen

= From: Bill Wade <super_c= hipmunk@roadrunner.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
S= ent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:18 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Tempest spark plugs
=0AWhat's the problem with platinum? I'm running fine wires in both m= y IO-550 and TCM IO-360.

I haven't noticed any problems after 300+ h= ours on each one. -Bill Wade

-----Original Message----- From: Lorn H= Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:28 PM
To: lml@lanca= ironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Tempest spark plugs

Art,
<= br>Iridium spark plugs will last for 2,000 hours. With the Champion plugs, = at 500 to 800 hours, you will either have to buy massive plugs to swap the = resisters or buy new iridium plugs. I went to the junk yard and pulled good= resisters out of used massive plugs. The Tempest plug resisters will stay = good for the life of the plug.

Other than the resisters, you will no= t be able to tell the difference between the iridium plugs. Make sure that = you don't get the older platinum type.

To buy:

For good servi= ce with spark plugs call Linda Lou, Inc. in Memphis, Tn. All Linda sells are = plugs. She has replaced dropped plugs for me in the past. Linda also gave m= e the number of a Champion rep. I will talk to him in the near future and s= ee if resisters or replacements are available for the high resistance Champ= ion plugs.

800-824-9912

Her prices for plugs are:

Temp= est: $51.00
Champion: $89.95

Lorn

On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:00 = AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote:

> From: Art Jensen <fly= cassutts@yahoo.com>
> Date: February 6, 2012 7:50:13 PM EST>
> All,
>
> Would like to hear from everyone using= the tempest spark plugs. Are you satisfied with them? Do you think they ar= e better than Champion, and why? Are you using the massive or fine wire? He= lp me make an informed decision.
>
> I am getting ready to order a new set of plugs. I currently use the RHB32E by Champion in my IO-= 550-N. I have no complaints with these plugs but wonder if the Tempest with= their one piece resistor design is better as their ad would suggest.
&g= t;
> Thank you for your input
>
> Art Jensen

--<= br>Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst
DynaComm, Corp= ., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us
LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,80= 0 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan


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