X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:44:08 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm12-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.94.236.11] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with SMTP id 5198686 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:17:45 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.94.236.11; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 04:17:11 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 04:17:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 04:17:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 250573.38615.bm@omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 66622 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2011 04:17:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vbXTkmwVM1k9v9U1JqY7GiKsZiLiGtym6ZcaUSubSV4fQgT JFj2SuoSBfwM3EbqG0y_16DrtJ_aHHJkHJyfxbxheQ3f4jsMzhnZdTR.edCb e.s7YON0qb_QDQzj_I6zfHKseXHkoFFkBm1YNUPaCbp.nk.MHjFqQd6YyKL2 TDqLCvsk0N6bmHbQ4Zv_99eQspDst6rpbrz5FEVDdKGB7fhH78hhAQpZDHzq NnwyM5nWLqIOvFBdBRdNj.MnL.MwqhpkuVy1TCSUHmCcMELWracLG3iaWK0h .Dl4SQH2cQlWo1rMAjfC.E5ywhM5rQiyWeftxMZVM2JlbkP8jNaFbY1usjhI Ec.Mue12hbp79ePt0aDXKqxSboFWk7C3gihRnJNKXT7sDGQVwcmVvt2qIfF. H7DTeDYJqY926C07i1fxGd0Q- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.81.165 with plain) by smtp102.vzn.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2011 20:17:10 -0800 PST From: Charley Brown Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--660353697 Subject: Re: [LML] What would you do..... X-Original-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:17:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-1--660353697 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If it's that bad, and he's just about to (a) kill himself and (b) create = another spot on the aviation safety record, and someone responsible has = already tried to reason with him, then it's time to be a rat: 1. Notify his insurance company, if they can be identified (and he even = has insurance), and 2. Notify the local FSDO. If the airplane is a flying emergency, they = can probably find something on a ramp check and then do a little = negotiating to get the guy to bring it up to par or get rid of it. On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Ronald STEVENS wrote: Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for help regarding an issue = he has with a pilot who owns a Lancair 4p. I am not calling names, so in case he is a follower of the LML, he can = take your advices.=20 This plane has tons of issues, as a matter of fact the Cfii told me that = from the last 11 flights he had, 10 had emergencies, like engine out, = total loss of electrical power etc etc. The plane has an OP technologies (old setup) avionics who is not working = right etc. Above all this the owner is a low time pilot, and according to the CFII = he is flying the plane with 2 hands on the stick because he doesn't know = how to use the trim. So when I was hearing this I was shocked and told him that he should = first get the plane checked out by somebody like Charlie Kohler and than = fix it and than sell it.=20 The CFII told me that he already told him this but that he was stubborn = and doesn't want to sell..... Now this is a next statistic waiting to happen and I really feel bad, so = what would you do? Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 hours with other planes lol) On Nov 11, 2011, at 2:31 PM, "Russell" wrote: > =20 > =20 > Originally I tried to be clever with installing mine in the copilots = naca vent. This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The probe needs = to be out completely in the air to give you proper information. > =20 > Mine is now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing = in front of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me = easy access through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, = almost in front of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were = receiving accurate temperatures and information. > =20 > Regards > Russell Steiner > Legacy N2AA > G900 panel --Apple-Mail-1--660353697 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Today I spoke with a CFII who was asking me for = help regarding an issue he has with a pilot who owns a Lancair = 4p.

I am not calling names, so in case he is a = follower of the LML, he can take your = advices. 

This plane has tons of issues, = as a matter of fact the Cfii told me that from the last 11 flights he = had, 10 had emergencies, like engine out, total loss of electrical power = etc etc.

The plane has an OP technologies (old = setup) avionics who is not working right = etc.

Above all this the owner is a low time = pilot, and according to the CFII he is flying the plane with 2 hands on = the stick because he doesn't know how to use the = trim.

So when I was hearing this I was shocked = and told him that he should first get the plane checked out by somebody = like Charlie Kohler and than fix it and than sell = it. 

The CFII told me that he already told = him this but that he was stubborn and doesn't want to = sell.....

Now this is a next statistic waiting = to happen and I really feel bad, so what would you = do?



Ronald (110 hours Lancair 4p, 1400 = hours with other planes lol)

On Nov 11, 2011, = at 2:31 PM, "Russell" <n2aa@att.net> = wrote:

 

 

Originally= I tried to be clever with installing mine in the copilots naca vent. = This did not work, we got erroneous numbers. The probe needs to be out = completely in the air to give you proper information.

 

Mine is = now installed on my legacy on the bottom side of the stub wing in front = of the spar about 6 inches away from the fuselage. This gave me easy = access through the access cover inside the cabin. Or easier said, almost = in front of the spar inner bolt. In that position we were receiving = accurate temperatures and information.

 

Regards

Russell = Steiner

Legacy = N2AA

G900 = panel


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