X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5160068 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:03:32 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.206.41; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p9HH2oPJ022935 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:02:50 -0400 Received: from core-mna002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mna002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.106.5]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BC521E000092 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:02:49 -0400 (EDT) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Hand Pump LIV In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE5B05BC10B005_17E4_E0631_webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34188-STANDARD Received: from 75.49.239.129 by webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com (205.188.168.25) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:02:49 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CE5B05BBF680DA-17E4-5D0E0@webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.49.239.129] X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:02:49 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:484163936:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29494e9c5fb9154b This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE5B05BC10B005_17E4_E0631_webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Its night time.... you are IMC shooting an instrument approach and the gear= does not come down...where the hell is that handle? -----Original Message----- From: jeffrey liegner To: lml Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2011 7:44 am Subject: [LML] Re: Gear Hand Pump LIV To: lml@lancaironline.net rom: "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" ubject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Hand Pump LIV c: "William A. Hogarty" cc:=20 -Attachments: :Macintosh HD:402137:Gear Hand Pump LIV.1.jpg: :Macintosh=20 D:402137:Gear Hand Pump LIV.2.jpg: Here's a basic camera photo of the Gear Hand Pump handle mod. e: Hydraullic pump mod: Jeff: A picture of your mod would be appreciated. Also, what did the mod= =20 ost.? Thanks, Bill Hogarty n Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:27 AM, <liegner@eart= hlink.net>=20 rote: Brad Simmons (talented professional builder in Milan TN) as shown me a modification to the ear handle that solved this problem. The leaking hydralics at the ump housing (which I had rebuilt three of four times to stop this) ust come from these little bumps and wiggles occurring against the andle, permitting hydralic fluid to sneak past the seals. Using a machinist, the handle is cut short leaving ~40% (coming off he pump), and a female fitting incorporated into the cut end. The ther 60% handle (with the bulb on end) gets a long male screw ounted inside the hollow end. When screwed together, the handle is olid. The 60% handle then sits elsewhere (side pouch or behind the assenger front seat or cleated under the front spar lip). This opens up the entire leg area previously blocked by the handle rojecting out over the spar, and also significantly reduces the resence of the handle/pump profile sitting between the seats. ithout the occasional bumps on the handle, small leakage from the ump seals seems to have stopped. I sent my handle to Brad <dl60280@bellsouth.n= et>=20 nd he returned it n two weeks machined and ready for reinstall. Jeff Liegner IVP in New Jersey > To: lml@lancaironline.net From: "Nicholas Paczkowski" <npaczkowski@telu= s.net> Subject: Gear Hand Pump LIV Perhaps a dumb question (apologies in advance) but Is there a better alternative available to the manually operated hydraulic 'gear down' lever (such as a charged gas bottle) that would eliminate both the awkward lever and the seemingly inevitable leaking of hydraulic fluid? Thanks. - or archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- or archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ----------MB_8CE5B05BC10B005_17E4_E0631_webmail-d052.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Its night time.... you are = IMC shooting an instrument approach and the gear does not come down...where= the hell is that handle?


= -----Original Message-----
From: jeffrey liegner <liegner@ptd.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2011 7:44 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Gear Hand Pump LIV

To: lml@lancaironline.net
From: "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" <l=
iegner@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gear Hand Pump LIV
Cc: "William A. Hogarty" <billh=
ogarty@gmail.com>
Bcc:=20
X-Attachments: :Macintosh HD:402137:Gear Hand Pump LIV.1.jpg: :Macintosh=20
HD:402137:Gear Hand Pump LIV.2.jpg:

Here's a basic camera photo of the Gear Hand Pump handle mod.


re:  Hydraullic pump mod:

Jeff:  A picture of your mod would be appreciated.  Also, what did the mod=
=20
cost.?

Thanks, Bill Hogarty


On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:27 AM, <<mailto:liegner@earthlink.net>liegner@ear=
thlink.net>=20
wrote:



Brad Simmons (talented professional builder in Milan TN)
has shown me a modification to the
gear handle that solved this problem.  The leaking hydralics at the
pump housing (which I had rebuilt three of four times to stop this)
must come from these little bumps and wiggles occurring against the
handle, permitting hydralic fluid to sneak past the seals.

Using a machinist, the handle is cut short leaving ~40% (coming off
the pump), and a female fitting incorporated into the cut end.  The
other 60% handle (with the bulb on end) gets a long male screw
mounted inside the hollow end.  When screwed together, the handle is
solid.  The 60% handle then sits elsewhere (side pouch or behind the
passenger front seat or cleated under the front spar lip).

This opens up the entire leg area previously blocked by the handle
projecting out over the spar, and also significantly reduces the
presence of the handle/pump profile sitting between the seats.
Without the occasional bumps on the handle, small leakage from the
pump seals seems to have stopped.

I sent my handle to Brad <<mailto:dl60280@bellsouth.net>dl60280@bellsouth.n=
et>=20
and he returned it
in two weeks machined and ready for reinstall.

Jeff Liegner
LIVP in New Jersey



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>To:  <mailto:lml@lancaironline.net>lml@lancaironline.net
>From: "Nicholas Paczkowski" <<mailto:npaczkowski@telus.net>npaczkowski@=
telus.net>
>Subject: Gear Hand Pump LIV
>
>Perhaps a dumb question (apologies in advance) but Is there a better
>alternative available to the manually operated hydraulic 'gear down'
>lever (such as a charged gas bottle) that would eliminate both the
>awkward lever and the seemingly inevitable leaking of hydraulic
>fluid? Thanks.


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