X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:36:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.243] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5139131 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:02:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.27.243; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eD4M1h00C1smiN4ADG1g3U; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:01:40 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.3] ([67.168.154.68]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id eFzn1h0021UoeR78gFznmZ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:59:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IPAD From: John Hafen In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:01:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Foreflight currently does not display TFRs. That capability is on a "futures list" for them. John Hafen IVP413AJ 350 hours On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:49 AM, Rob Murawski wrote: I recently downloaded the evaluation versions of both Foreflight and WingX to test them side-by-side. My primary purpose was to find a nice flight planner that I could use on the go. I also wanted to be able to reference approach charts in flight so I wouldn't have to page through the book all the time or switch approach chart books en route. I liked the Foreflight interface much better. I also liked that when you buy it, you get a license to use it on one iPad *AND* one iPhone. So if I wanted to file while away from WiFi (I'm not paying for the iPad data plan) I could do so from my phone. For WingX, I did like the split screen, so I could have an approach up and watch my position on the IFR en route chart. I just didn't think I'd need this feature this often. WingX only supported ADS-B weather, while Foreflight could download the radar image over the network. WingX had better overlays for weather, TFRs, etc on the charts themselves. However, WingX wasn't always correct in the TFR interpretation. When Obama was in Shanksville, PA for the 9/11 memorial, it showed the first half of the TFR over KPIT, but it never showed the second half over Shanksville, PA. This is probably an extreme case, but showed me I couldn't count on it. I didn't really see myself using all of the in flight features. WingX supports Synthetic Vision, but you would really need an external AHARS to make use of it well. It also needed an ADS-B receiver to get the radar images. I did like that WingX would show me which airspaces I was in. (Class B/class D/etc and floors/ceilings) Granted, Foreflight won't show weather in flight, but again, I was more interested in preflight planning. My primary use was for preflight planning, filing, and reduction of paper. Foreflight seemed much better for this purpose. WingX seemed more like a tool for use in the air. When it comes to aerial navigation, I prefer the systems installed in the aircraft. I've had both applications crash on me and, possibly, Foreflight crashed a bit more often. Generally related to having a network, then having it disappear for a bit and it thinking it can still download stuff. The crashes reduced once I bought a subscription and could download chart data. Disclaimer: I did all of my IFR training in a G1000-equipped 172. So I'm a bit spoiled at having a nice in-cockpit system to augment my situational awareness. -Rob -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html