Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #58395
From: <davelink2001@comcast.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Piston vs turbine?
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:39:33 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Upper flight levels? Unless you qualify through a very expensive program (RVSM)  you will be limited to FL290 and below.

Dave.

----- Original Message -----
From: "swaid rahn" <indigoaviation@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:31:06 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Piston vs turbine?

Hello All,
 I have a LIV-P in my shop that we are converting to turbine. It had a Engineair V8 ( the owners had over 85 thousand in the V8 firewall fwd installation) that we removed and we are installing a -6 Garrett. The performance numbers look very promising. The garrett is one of the most fuel efficient turboprops and it has a high altitude compressor. This one makes 715 Shaft HP up to 31 thousand feet. I expect our fuel burn to be around 26-27 gal/hr at the flight level cruise. The engine weights 360 lbs and we are using a 3 bladed Hartzell prop. We are building our own firewall fwd installation. We are using a 32 gal belly tank and a baggage comp. tank with 160 gal.+ fuel.
 We bought this engine for about 2/3 the price of a new TSIO-550 Continental. It has over 1000 cycles remaining until the next event, which could be 1500+ hours depending on how many hours per flight. (1.5 hr x 1000 cyc.= 1500hr).
 We should see 330-340 KTS true airspeed an the upper flight levels.
This installation will be a little different from the other Garrett installations.
We will have about the same money in the components for this turbine as the Continental installation package from Lancair.
I know this all sounds too good to be true so we will have to wait and see if I can back up the above claims.
Swaid Rahn
N753M (LIVP-T Walter)
N606CF LIVP-T Garrett in progress.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM, paul miller <paul@tbm700.com> wrote:
And not to forget the Orenda V-8 program that was actually installed in King Airs.  I recall the Canadian government backing that venture and Elliott Aviation installing with an STC but after a brief appearance at OSH I never saw them again.   I suspect some money was lost in that program too.

Paul 
Legacy
On 2011-05-25, at 1:44 PM, Frederick Moreno wrote:

 See Thielert's experience. 




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Swaid L. Rahn
Indigo Aviation, Inc.
940 Mock Road
Springfield, Ga. 31329
Cell 912.655.0966


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