X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from carbinge.com ([69.5.27.218] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with SMTP id 4916641 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:02:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.5.27.218; envelope-from=jbarrett@carbinge.com Received: (qmail 27271 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2011 00:02:22 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.235.58.63] Reply-To: From: "John Barrett" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: flight simulator X-Original-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:02:20 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <00ff01cbe9b6$bf8c8c50$3ea5a4f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0100_01CBE97C.132DB450" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvphLra+KTA4sgnTNytB/jD/I9Z6QAMUJWA Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01CBE97C.132DB450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking at the manual it appears to have a somewhat outdated panel and setup. Rather limited and non-flexible. The only thing close to glass panel is the GNS unit - they appear to have copied a huge amount of the Garmin manual for this and it takes up many pages in the manual. I would think one of the most valuable uses of a simulator would be providing experience with glass panel flying - especially for experienced pilots who have most of their time with steam gauges - like me. I would hate to think I have to start out my flight time in my L IVP getting used to the a/c with its complex systems and unforgiving flight envelope at the same time I am experiencing initial orientation to glass panel stuff. Is it possible the software is programmable for different MFD units? My $.02, John Barrett From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn Case Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:04 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: flight simulator Ralf, I don't have any time on this Orbx product but have flown FSX several hours. Although the flight response compared to the airplane I was flying was not very accurate, I still found the sim extremely helpful. Caveat: it depends what skills you are trying to perfect. If you are mainly after "Can I keep the plane right side up in the presence of conflicting sensory inputs." obviously there's limited value because most of the sensory inputs are missing. On the other hand if you are interested in refining things like the below I find it exceptionally helpful and far more efficient than training in the air: - am I looking at the right thing at the right time? - are the magnitude of my corrections on an instrument approach about right? - did I execute my approach checklist effectively? - am I organized for the miss? - am I organized for a nearby alternate? - do I prioritize correctly in emergencies (helpful to have a buddy control the emergency part of the sim)? Colyn On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:47 AM, wrote: Dear subscribers, Since I am close to flying now I wanted to ask you if you have any experience with this flight simulator software. How much money do I have to spend. Does it help? - is it an instrument that can keep you current. The Instrument set up they have in there is very similar to my airplane. I just remember when I took my instrument rating I had 1 hour of simulator - it did not do much for me at this time and I never tried it again. Thanks for your help Ralf -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3524 - Release Date: 03/23/11 ------=_NextPart_000_0100_01CBE97C.132DB450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Looking at the manual it appears to have a somewhat outdated panel = and setup.  Rather limited and non-flexible.  The only thing = close to glass panel is the GNS unit – they appear to have copied = a huge amount of the Garmin manual for this and it takes up many pages = in the manual.

 

I would think one of the most valuable uses of a simulator would be = providing experience with glass panel flying – especially for = experienced pilots who have most of their time with steam gauges – = like me. 

 

I would hate to think I have to start out my flight time in my L IVP = getting used to the a/c with its complex systems and unforgiving flight = envelope at the same time I am experiencing initial orientation to glass = panel stuff.

 

Is it possible the software is programmable for different MFD = units?

 

My $.02,

 

John Barrett

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Colyn Case
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:04 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = flight simulator

 

Ralf,

 

I = don't have any time on this Orbx product but have flown FSX several = hours.

 

Although the flight response compared to the airplane = I was flying was not very accurate, I still found the sim extremely = helpful.  Caveat: it depends what skills you are trying to = perfect.

 

If you are mainly after "Can I keep the plane = right side up in the presence of conflicting sensory inputs." = obviously there's limited value because most of the sensory inputs are = missing.

 

On the other hand if you are interested in refining = things like the below I find it exceptionally helpful and far more = efficient than training in the air:

- am I looking at the right thing at the right = time?

- are the magnitude = of my corrections on an instrument approach about = right?

- did I execute my = approach checklist effectively?

- am I organized for the = miss?

- am I organized for = a nearby alternate?

- do I = prioritize correctly in emergencies (helpful to have a buddy control the = emergency part of the sim)?

 

Colyn

 

 

On = Mar 23, 2011, at 8:47 AM, <bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM= > wrote:



Dear = subscribers,

 =

Since I am = close to flying now I wanted to ask you if you have any experience with = this flight simulator software.

 =

How much = money do I have to spend. Does it help? – is it an instrument that = can keep you current.

 =

The = Instrument set up they have in there is very similar to my = airplane.

 =

I just = remember when I took my instrument rating I had 1 hour of simulator = – it did not do much for me at this time and I never tried it = again.

 =

Thanks for = your help

 =

Ralf

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