X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:41:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.145] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2a) with ESMTP id 4828700 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:02:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.145; envelope-from=MikeEasley@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p0RM22p1002857 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:02:02 -0500 Received: from core-mkb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mkb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.98.5]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5C3A3E000085 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:02:02 -0500 (EST) From: MikeEasley@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:02:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Engine mount cracks X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_eec08.364b175e.3a73455a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 80 X-AOL-IP: 75.71.170.97 X-Originating-IP: [172.29.49.36] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:442492864:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d4d41eb5a5226 --part1_eec08.364b175e.3a73455a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Some of the mods made to the ES mount are not compatible with a retractable= =20 nose gear and TSIO. The cross tube between the two front engine mount =20 rings with a diagonal tube is really the most solid way to construct the fr= ont=20 of the mount, but a straight tube won't work on the TSIO. I know at least= =20 one guy who had a curved or trapezoidal cross brace that worked with the = =20 TSIO. =20 The new version of the ES mount has flat plates on the top, forward =20 diagonal, and forward surface, bridging between the left and right bearing = block =20 plates. I don't think you can do that with the retractable nose gear =20 mechanism. =20 When I dealt with my cracked mount, I talked to Lancair and they =20 recommended removing the mount and sending it back to them to be modified w= ith the=20 gussets and flat plates. The advantage is it would be done with the mount= =20 in the jig so no distortion will develop. They had also built a complete = IV=20 mount out of heavier tubing for a guy who'd broken two previous mounts. = =20 My cracked mount was from a severe shimmy when the damping in my old style= =20 nose strut failed. =20 Mike Easley Colorado Springs =20 =20 In a message dated 1/27/2011 12:43:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, =20 cberland@systems3.net writes: =20 =20 =20 Colyn,=20 I wouldn=E2=80=99t jump to the conclusion that new mounts are bad and I do= n=E2=80=99t=20 have any contacts who would weld a custom mount for a price that anybody w= ould=20 think was reasonable.=20 Craig Craig,=20 =20 =20 It sounds as if the quality of the new mounts is questionable? How would= =20 you go about getting a really solid mount built? =20 =20 Colyn =20 =20 --part1_eec08.364b175e.3a73455a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en

Some of the mods made to the ES mount are not compatible with a retrac= table=20 nose gear and TSIO. The cross tube between the two front engine mount= =20 rings with a diagonal tube is really the most solid way to construct the fr= ont=20 of the mount, but a straight tube won't work on the TSIO. I know at l= east=20 one guy who had a curved or trapezoidal cross brace that worked with the=20 TSIO.

The new version of the ES mount has flat plates on the top, forward=20 diagonal, and forward surface, bridging between the left and right bearing = block=20 plates. I don't think you can do that with the retractable nose gear= =20 mechanism.

When I dealt with my cracked mount, I talked to Lancair and they=20 recommended removing the mount and sending it back to them to be modified w= ith=20 the gussets and flat plates. The advantage is it would be done with t= he=20 mount in the jig so no distortion will develop. They had also built a= =20 complete IV mount out of heavier tubing for a guy who'd broken two previous= =20 mounts. My cracked mount was from a severe shimmy when the damping in= my=20 old style nose strut failed.

Mike Easley

Colorado Springs

In a message dated 1/27/2011 12:43:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,=20 cberland@systems3.net writes:

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Colyn,

I=20 wouldn=E2=80=99t jump to the conclusion that new mounts are bad and I don= =E2=80=99t have any=20 contacts who would weld a custom mount for a price that anybody would thi= nk=20 was reasonable.

Craig=

Craig,

It sounds as if the quality of the new mounts is=20 questionable? How would you go about getting a really solid mount= =20 built?

Colyn

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