X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-qw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.216.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c1) with ESMTPS id 4790766 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:54:48 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.52; envelope-from=afm528@gmail.com Received: by qwi4 with SMTP id 4so306675qwi.25 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Gymw+V8y4bNWqCjDDZ+Lrx4P6WfS0UY/cJrKwBuLekpIyFj4TE37ykFrWH0kVvq4Xu VRi4kyl4QB6yqAlngbd+xCIjx2rRV+rhmhKYSZAXEfPhT1cO9JWrampFeQL1ZeTK4/Ka ld1y5Vow1dUPL8NB0fVf1UvIQh6AYn+t3fn88= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.68 with SMTP id l4mr111124qac.38.1295402053246; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.2.210 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.2.210 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:13 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lithium Batteries From: Michael McMahon X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb23639a0a4049a294b52 --0015175cb23639a0a4049a294b52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick, The early "packagers", as opposed to manufacturers, are charging huge markups. It's not too hard to buy cells wholesale and build your own packs. The electric vehicle forums have lots of details. On Jan 18, 2011 8:52 AM, "Rick Titsworth" wrote= : > > Hmmm, this would be great (weight reduction), but it seems a bit fishy=85 > > > > For comparison, a DCB120 12v Dewalt Li-ion hand tool battery is 0.5lbs, $50, and is rated at 1.3 AH > > So, 4 of them would be 2 lbs, $200, and 5.2AH > > > > Since the DeWalt Li-ion are apparently fairly advanced, I don=92t see how this (below) is ~ 300% better for same cost/weight. > > > > Would love to know more. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Lorn H Olsen > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:57 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Lithium Batteries > > > > As I look for a replacement for my BC100-1 (ODYSSEY PC925) battery, I ran across (suggested by Wolfgang) the following batteries. > > > > http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/LFX18L1-BS12.html > > > > http://www.shoraipower.com/t-faq.aspx > > > > At only 2.5 lbs (compared to 25 lbs) and a reasonable $181 price these batteries appear to be a real breakthrough. > > > > Does anyone have any practical experience with the lithium batteries? > > > > Lorn > > -- > > Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst > > DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us > > LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,780 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan > > --0015175cb23639a0a4049a294b52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rick,

The early "packagers", as opposed to manufacturers, are chargi= ng huge markups.=A0 It's not too hard to buy cells wholesale and build = your own packs.=A0 The electric vehicle forums have lots of details.
On Jan 18, 2011 8:52 AM, "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, this would be great (weight reduction), but it seems a bit fishy= =85
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> =A0
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> For comparison, a DCB120 12v Dewalt Li-ion hand tool battery is 0.5lbs= , $50, and is rated at 1.3 AH
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> So, 4 of them would be 2 lbs, $200, and 5.2AH
>
> =A0
>
> Since the DeWalt Li-ion are apparently fairly advanced, I don=92t see = how this (below) is ~ 300% better for same cost/weight.
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> =A0
>
> Would love to know more.
>
> =A0
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Lorn H Olsen
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 9:57 AM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net=
> Subject: [LML] Lithium Batteries
>
> =A0
>
> As I look for a replacement for my=A0BC100-1=A0(ODYSSEY PC925) battery= , I ran across (suggested by Wolfgang) the following batteries.
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> =A0=A0 =A0=A0http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/LFX1= 8L1-BS12.html
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> =A0
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> =A0=A0 =A0=A0http://= www.shoraipower.com/t-faq.aspx
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> =A0
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> At only 2.5 lbs (compared to 25 lbs) and a reasonable $181 price these= batteries appear to be a real breakthrough.
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> =A0
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> Does anyone have any practical experience with the lithium batteries?<= br> >
> =A0
>
> Lorn
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> --
>
> Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst
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> DynaComm, Corp.,=A0248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us
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> LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,780 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan
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> =A0

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