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X-Spam-Summary: 2,-3.05263,0,a18e8bf06f9ec409,d41d8cd98f00b204,rmitch1@hughes.net,lml@lancaironline.net:lml@lancaironline.net,RULES_HIT:4:152:355:379:476:509:541:599:601:800:901:945:946:960:962:967:972:973:983:988:989:1042:1189:1208:1212:1221:1260:1261:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1437:1515:1516:1517:1518:1575:1589:1594:1605:1608:1676:1685:1730:1776:1792:2068:2069:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2525:2551:2553:2568:2627:2637:2682:2685:2857:2859:2892:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3138:3522:3523:3673:3742:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4649:5007:6117:6119:7520:7576:7652:7679:7862:7903:7904:7974:8583:8599:8603:8660:8784:8957:8985:9010:9025:9040:9177:9388:9545:10004:10016:10049,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-Session-Marker: 726D6974636831406875676865732E6E6574 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 18149 Received: from [192.168.1.107] (dpc6744191027.direcpc.com [67.44.191.27]) (Authenticated sender: rmitch1@hughes.net) by omf06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:18:25 +0000 (UTC) References: X-Original-Message-Id: <08F3CE87-66CE-4515-AF99-2B73814A409F@hughes.net> From: Robert Mitchell X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-750315656 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B500) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B500) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:17:23 -0600 X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" --Apple-Mail-5-750315656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is a web site that explains what assisted GPS really is! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS Bob Mitchell Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2010, at 9:17 PM, "Dominic V. Crain" = wrote: > Actually the Australian AirNav VFR program is very good BUT it has = been designed only for PC=E2=80=99s. I rang =C3=A9m up and asked if they = are producing a Mac version for iPad and a loud NOPE was the answer. On = the PC version they have the moving map function, but i want an = iPad!!@$!@~~!! >=20 > Dom >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = YoSamuel@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2010 8:53 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit >=20 > =20 >=20 > John Hafen. >=20 > =20 >=20 > What software do you use for your IFR and VFR charts? >=20 > =20 >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Dave. >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > In a message dated 11/19/2010 5:03:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, = j.hafen@comcast.net writes: >=20 > My iPad provides moving map display on top of VFR or IFR charts as I = fly, as well as groundspeed, GPS Altitude, and Track. At 22,000 feet, = well away from cell towers. >=20 > =20 >=20 > What you can't get airborne is weather information. =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > John Hafen >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:52 PM, H & J Johnson wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > John, I thought so too, until I started to talking to the Apple rep at = the store. I've got the second highest level iPad [32Gb w/ 3G] and there = is no GPS [as in 'true' GPS w/ a built in receiver]. What it does have = is what they call A-GPS or "Assisted" GPS through connection to a 3G = tower. If your connected to 3G, then you have a 'sorta' GPS, however = there is still no actuall connection or reception of SAT signals. For = me flying @ FL240 it's pretty useless in this regard, but I would still = recommend it as a tool for carrying your charts etc. Foreflight and = FliteDeck are very nice. >=20 > Google the iPad w/ GPS stuff, there is lots of ppl not terribly happy = that it doesn't infact have a proper receiver. >=20 > Fwiw >=20 > Jarrett Johnson >=20 > 235/320 55% >=20 > > Not true. The higher end models do have gps. I know because my=20 > > wife got me the wrong one to start with. I had to take it back and=20= > > pay a few hundred more to get what I needed.....=20 > >=20 > > On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:24 AM, "Dominic V. Crain"=20 > > wrote:=20 > >=20 > > > Yeah =E2=80=93 I just went to look at an iPad as a b=E2=80=99day = present (for=20 > > meself) and when quizzed the so-called Apple expert finally=20 > > acknowledged there is no GPS receiver built in to the iPad =E2=80=93 = you=20 > > have to be in range of a 3G cell tower. Not a lot of use in the=20 > > outback>=20 > > > Cheers=20 > > >=20 > > > Dom Crain=20 > > >=20 > > > VH-CZJ=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > > From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of=20 > > H & J Johnson=20 > > > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 1:21 PM=20 > > > To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 > > > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > > Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just=20 > > upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was=20 > > wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not=20 > > come w/ a GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a=20 > > GPS but it isn't infact and gps. I can't get any 'gps' functions=20 > > to work on my w/out the 3G operating.=20 > > >=20 > > > As to external GPS units that integrate w/ blue tooth, what or=20 > > where does one get such a beast?=20 > > >=20 > > > REALLY liking my iPAD for in-cockpit work. I did an entire trip=20 > > last night central Canada to Denver and return to Canada w/ two=20 > > stops and didn't pick up a single chart book or map [I have them=20 > > still, I just don't use them]. It doesn't get better than that!!=20 > > Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver Metro area and=20 > > getting 'yanked' around a bit switching up arrival plates or=20 > > approach plates is a synch.=20 > > >=20 > > > Couldn't recommend it enough!=20 > > >=20 > > > Btw, to date [only been using a iPad for ~4 weeks] I've not had=20 > > issue w/ heat or altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a=20 > > cabin alt of 7-8000'=20 > > >=20 > > > Fwiw=20 > > >=20 > > > Jarrett Johnson=20 > > >=20 > > > 235/320 55%=20 > > >=20 > =20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > =20 >=20 > =3D >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-5-750315656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is a web site that explains = what assisted GPS really is!


http://en.wikipedia.org= /wiki/Assisted_GPS

Bob Mitchell


Sent from my iPad

On Nov 21, = 2010, at 9:17 PM, "Dominic V. Crain" <domcrain@tpg.com.au> = wrote:

Dom

 

From: Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf = Of YoSamuel@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, 20 November = 2010 8:53 = AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] = Re: iPad in the cockpit

 

My iPad provides moving = map display on top of VFR or IFR charts as I fly, as well as = groundspeed, GPS Altitude, and Track.  At 22,000 feet, well away = from cell towers.

John, I thought so too, = until I started to talking to the Apple rep at the store. I've got the = second highest level iPad [32Gb w/ 3G] and there is no GPS [as in 'true' = GPS w/ a built in receiver]. What it does have is what they call A-GPS = or "Assisted" GPS through connection to a 3G tower. If your connected = to 3G, then you have a 'sorta' GPS, however there is still no = actuall connection or reception of SAT signals.  For me flying @ = FL240 it's pretty useless in this regard, but I would still recommend it = as a tool for carrying your charts etc. Foreflight and FliteDeck are = very nice.

Google the iPad w/ GPS = stuff, there is lots of ppl not terribly happy that it doesn't infact = have a proper receiver.

Jarrett = Johnson

235/320 = 55%

> Not true. The higher end models = do have gps. I know because my 
> wife got me the wrong one = to start with. I had to take it back and 
> pay a few hundred = more to get what I needed..... 
> 
> On Nov 16, = 2010, at 6:24 AM, "Dominic V. Crain" 
> <domcrain@tpg.com.au> = wrote: 
> 
> > Yeah =E2=80=93 I just went to = look at an iPad as a b=E2=80=99day present (for 
> meself) = and when quizzed the so-called Apple expert finally 
> = acknowledged there is no GPS receiver built in to the iPad =E2=80=93 = you 
> have to be in range of a 3G cell tower. Not a lot of = use in the 
> outback> 
> > = Cheers 
> > 
> > Dom Crain 
> = > 
> > VH-CZJ 
> > 
> = >  
> > 
> > From: Lancair Mailing = List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of 
> H & J = Johnson 
> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 1:21 = PM 
> > To: lml@lancaironline.net 
= > > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit 
> = > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bob = Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just 
> = upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and = was 
> wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact = they do-not 
> come w/ a GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that = make it work like a 
> GPS but it isn't infact and gps.  = I can't get any 'gps' functions 
> to work on my w/out the 3G = operating. 
> > 
> > As to external GPS = units that integrate w/ blue tooth, what or 
> where does one = get such a beast? 
> > 
> > REALLY liking my = iPAD for in-cockpit work. I did an entire trip 
> last night = central Canada to Denver and return to Canada w/ two 
> stops = and didn't pick up a single chart book or map [I have them 
> = still, I just don't use them]. It doesn't get better than = that!! 
> Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver = Metro area and 
> getting 'yanked' around a bit switching up = arrival plates or 
> approach plates is a = synch. 
> > 
> > Couldn't recommend it = enough! 
> > 
> > Btw, to date [only been = using a iPad for ~4 weeks] I've not had 
> issue w/ heat or = altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a 
> cabin alt = of 7-8000' 
> > 
> > Fwiw 
> = > 
> > Jarrett Johnson 
> > 
> = > 235/320 55% 
>

 

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