X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail5.tpgi.com.au ([203.12.160.101] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTPS id 4585698 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:27:04 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=203.12.160.101; envelope-from=domcrain@tpg.com.au X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-TPG-Abuse: host=60-241-193-89.static.tpgi.com.au; ip=60.241.193.89; date=Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:26:26 +1100; auth=lCMk85acEwS5EitTlTMVBq/k80PlAUC0mhrQOc1Og5I= Received: from DomandJanPC (60-241-193-89.static.tpgi.com.au [60.241.193.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail5.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from domcrain@tpg.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAJNQOOY019001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:26:26 +1100 From: "Dominic V. Crain" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit X-Original-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:26:25 +1100 X-Original-Message-ID: <004001cb8841$30563940$9102abc0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01CB889D.63C6B140" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: en-au Thread-Index: AcuIND1mJR/7yOqQSkmp0FJ1YdiTIAADKHYA This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CB889D.63C6B140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually the Australian AirNav VFR program is very good BUT it has been = designed only for PC=E2=80=99s. I rang =C3=A9m up and asked if they are = producing a Mac version for iPad and a loud NOPE was the answer. On the = PC version they have the moving map function, but i want an = iPad!!@$!@~~!! Dom =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = YoSamuel@aol.com Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2010 8:53 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit =20 John Hafen. =20 What software do you use for your IFR and VFR charts? =20 Thanks. =20 Dave. =20 =20 =20 In a message dated 11/19/2010 5:03:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, = j.hafen@comcast.net writes: My iPad provides moving map display on top of VFR or IFR charts as I = fly, as well as groundspeed, GPS Altitude, and Track. At 22,000 feet, = well away from cell towers.=20 =20 What you can't get airborne is weather information. =20 =20 John Hafen =20 =20 On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:52 PM, H & J Johnson wrote: =20 =20 =20 John, I thought so too, until I started to talking to the Apple rep at = the store. I've got the second highest level iPad [32Gb w/ 3G] and there = is no GPS [as in 'true' GPS w/ a built in receiver]. What it does have = is what they call A-GPS or "Assisted" GPS through connection to a 3G = tower. If your connected to 3G, then you have a 'sorta' GPS, however = there is still no actuall connection or reception of SAT signals. For = me flying @ FL240 it's pretty useless in this regard, but I would still = recommend it as a tool for carrying your charts etc. Foreflight and = FliteDeck are very nice. Google the iPad w/ GPS stuff, there is lots of ppl not terribly happy = that it doesn't infact have a proper receiver. Fwiw Jarrett Johnson 235/320 55% > Not true. The higher end models do have gps. I know because my=20 > wife got me the wrong one to start with. I had to take it back and=20 > pay a few hundred more to get what I needed.....=20 >=20 > On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:24 AM, "Dominic V. Crain"=20 > wrote:=20 >=20 > > Yeah =E2=80=93 I just went to look at an iPad as a b=E2=80=99day = present (for=20 > meself) and when quizzed the so-called Apple expert finally=20 > acknowledged there is no GPS receiver built in to the iPad =E2=80=93 = you=20 > have to be in range of a 3G cell tower. Not a lot of use in the=20 > outback>=20 > > Cheers=20 > >=20 > > Dom Crain=20 > >=20 > > VH-CZJ=20 > >=20 > > =20 > >=20 > > From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of=20 > H & J Johnson=20 > > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 1:21 PM=20 > > To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 > > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit=20 > >=20 > > =20 > >=20 > > Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just=20 > upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was=20 > wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not=20 > come w/ a GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a=20 > GPS but it isn't infact and gps. I can't get any 'gps' functions=20 > to work on my w/out the 3G operating.=20 > >=20 > > As to external GPS units that integrate w/ blue tooth, what or=20 > where does one get such a beast?=20 > >=20 > > REALLY liking my iPAD for in-cockpit work. I did an entire trip=20 > last night central Canada to Denver and return to Canada w/ two=20 > stops and didn't pick up a single chart book or map [I have them=20 > still, I just don't use them]. It doesn't get better than that!!=20 > Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver Metro area and=20 > getting 'yanked' around a bit switching up arrival plates or=20 > approach plates is a synch.=20 > >=20 > > Couldn't recommend it enough!=20 > >=20 > > Btw, to date [only been using a iPad for ~4 weeks] I've not had=20 > issue w/ heat or altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a=20 > cabin alt of 7-8000'=20 > >=20 > > Fwiw=20 > >=20 > > Jarrett Johnson=20 > >=20 > > 235/320 55%=20 >=20 =20 -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =20 =3D ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CB889D.63C6B140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually the Australian AirNav VFR program is very good = BUT it has been designed only for PC=E2=80=99s. I rang =C3=A9m up and asked if = they are producing a Mac version for iPad and a loud NOPE was the answer. On the PC version = they have the moving map function, but i want an = iPad!!@$!@~~!!

Dom

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of YoSamuel@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2010 8:53 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit

 

John Hafen.

 

What software do you use for your IFR and VFR = charts?

 

Thanks.

 

Dave.

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/19/2010 5:03:26 A.M. Pacific Standard = Time, j.hafen@comcast.net writes:

My iPad provides moving map display on top of VFR or IFR = charts as I fly, as well as groundspeed, GPS Altitude, and Track.  At 22,000 = feet, well away from cell towers.

 

What you can't get airborne is weather information. =  

 

John Hafen

 

 

On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:52 PM, H & J Johnson = wrote:



 

 

 

J= ohn, I thought so too, until I started to talking to the Apple rep at the = store. I've got the second highest level iPad [32Gb w/ 3G] and there is no GPS = [as in 'true' GPS w/ a built in receiver]. What it does have is what they call = A-GPS or "Assisted" GPS through connection to a 3G tower. If your = connected to 3G, then you have a 'sorta' GPS, however there is still no = actuall connection or reception of SAT signals.  For me flying @ FL240 it's = pretty useless in this regard, but I would still recommend it as a tool for = carrying your charts etc. Foreflight and FliteDeck are very = nice.

G= oogle the iPad w/ GPS stuff, there is lots of ppl not terribly happy that it = doesn't infact have a proper receiver.

F= wiw

J= arrett Johnson

2= 35/320 55%

&= gt; Not true. The higher end models do have gps. I know because my
> wife got me the wrong one to start with. I had to take it back and =
> pay a few hundred more to get what I needed.....
>
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:24 AM, "Dominic V. Crain"
> <domcrain@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Yeah =E2=80=93 I just went to look at an iPad as a = b=E2=80=99day present (for
> meself) and when quizzed the so-called Apple expert finally
> acknowledged there is no GPS receiver built in to the iPad = =E2=80=93 you
> have to be in range of a 3G cell tower. Not a lot of use in the =
> outback>
> > Cheers
> >
> > Dom Crain
> >
> > VH-CZJ
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf = Of
> H & J Johnson
> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 1:21 PM
> > To: lml@lancaironline.net
> > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit
> >
> > 
> >
> > Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just =
> upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was =
> wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not
> come w/ a GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a =
> GPS but it isn't infact and gps.  I can't get any 'gps' = functions
> to work on my w/out the 3G operating.
> >
> > As to external GPS units that integrate w/ blue tooth, what or =
> where does one get such a beast?
> >
> > REALLY liking my iPAD for in-cockpit work. I did an entire = trip
> last night central Canada to Denver and return to Canada w/ two =
> stops and didn't pick up a single chart book or map [I have them =
> still, I just don't use them]. It doesn't get better than that!! =
> Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver Metro area and =
> getting 'yanked' around a bit switching up arrival plates or
> approach plates is a synch.
> >
> > Couldn't recommend it enough!
> >
> > Btw, to date [only been using a iPad for ~4 weeks] I've not = had
> issue w/ heat or altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a =
> cabin alt of 7-8000'
> >
> > Fwiw
> >
> > Jarrett Johnson
> >
> > 235/320 55%
>

 

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