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From: Chris Zavatson <chris_zavatson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit
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Jarret,=0AI just went paperless and got a 16Gig 3G version (thanks to all y=
ou guys).=A0 With =0AWIFI and 3G turned off=A0(confirmed by messages regard=
ing the inability to access =0Aweather etc), the GPS position works.=A0 I=
=A0walked around outside and the =0Alittle=A0dot turned into an airplane an=
d it told me ground speed, direction and =0Aelevation.=A0 You can't look at=
 road map view, as it needs to actively download =0Amap data.=A0 Within For=
eflight the stored sectionals will show where you are on =0Athe ground with=
out being connected to cell towers.=0AYou mentioned removing a 3G sim card.=
=A0 If it is not a 3G IPad model, it will not =0Ahave GPS either.=0AThis th=
ing is amazing.=A0 =0A=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Awww.N91CZ.com=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: H & J Johnson <hjjohns=
on@sasktel.net>=0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net=0ASent: Thu, November 18, 2010 =
4:52:27 PM=0ASubject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit=0A=0A=0ABob have you tr=
ied the GPS functionality=A0w/ the 3G sim card removed and being =0Adisconn=
ected to wi-fi or other 'GPS' devices? [ie; stand-alone, =A0not connected =
=0Ato=A0any network]=0AI've got one sitting on my lap right now and it's no=
t connected to either my =0Awi-fi or 3G, it has no clue where on the face o=
f the earth it is.. When I ask =0Afor directions it asks me to enable my wi=
fi or 3G to assess my location.=A0 I've =0Ayet to see anyone [apple or othe=
rwise] flat-out state that the iPad has a SAT =0Areceiver inside.. I'd love=
 to/know for certain but for now, I have to assume the =0Aommission is as g=
ood as proof that there is no receiver built in. I'd be most =0Ahappy if so=
meone could show or prove that there is infact a receiver as I'd have =0Alo=
t more faith in it over what I do now :) However, if it did, I would think =
it =0Awould at least know what continent I'm on w/ out being connected to s=
omething.=0AJarrett Johnson=0A=0A=0A      
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<html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></he=
ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1=
0pt"><DIV>Jarret,</DIV>=0A<DIV>I just went paperless and got a 16Gig 3G ver=
sion (thanks to all you guys).&nbsp; With WIFI and 3G turned off&nbsp;(conf=
irmed by messages regarding the inability to access weather etc), the GPS p=
osition works.&nbsp; I&nbsp;walked around outside and the little&nbsp;dot t=
urned into an airplane and it told me ground speed, direction and elevation=
.&nbsp; You can't look at road map view, as it needs to actively download m=
ap data.&nbsp; Within Foreflight the stored sectionals will show where you =
are on the ground without being connected to cell towers.</DIV>=0A<DIV>You =
mentioned removing a 3G sim card.&nbsp; If it is not a 3G IPad model, it wi=
ll not have GPS either.</DIV>=0A<DIV>This thing is amazing.&nbsp; </DIV>=0A=
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>Chris Zavatson</DIV>=0A<DIV>N91CZ</DIV>=0A<DIV>360=
std</DIV>=0A<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.n91cz.com/">www.N91CZ.com</A><BR></D=
IV>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-se=
rif"><BR>=0A<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>=0A<HR SIZE=3D1>=0A<B><S=
PAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> H &amp; J Johnson &lt;hjjo=
hnson@sasktel.net&gt;<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B=
> lml@lancaironline.net<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN=
></B> Thu, November 18, 2010 4:52:27 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: b=
old">Subject:</SPAN></B> [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit<BR></FONT><BR>=0A<P>=
</P>=0A<P></P>=0A<P></P>=0A<P>Bob have you tried the GPS functionality&nbsp=
;w/ the 3G sim card removed and being disconnected to wi-fi or other 'GPS' =
devices? [ie; stand-alone, &nbsp;not connected to&nbsp;any network]</P>=0A<=
P>I've got one sitting on my lap right now and it's not connected to either=
 my wi-fi or 3G, it has no clue where on the face of the earth it is.. When=
 I ask for directions it asks me to enable my wifi or 3G to assess my locat=
ion.&nbsp; I've yet to see anyone [apple or otherwise] flat-out state that =
the iPad has a SAT receiver inside.. I'd love to/know for certain but for n=
ow, I have to assume the ommission is as good as proof that there is no rec=
eiver built in. I'd be most happy if someone could show or prove that there=
 is infact a receiver as I'd have lot more faith in it over what I do now :=
) However, if it did, I would think it would at least know what continent I=
'm on w/ out being connected to something.</P>=0A<P>Jarrett Johnson</P></DI=
V></DIV></div><br>=0A=0A      </body></html>
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