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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit

Not sure what you are asking, as there is no sim card (removable or =
access).  The 3G is cell data and gps but does not have to be " on".

Do you have the iPad 3GS version, the wi-fi only version doesn't have =
gps.

  Turning wifi off has no bearing, works fine where there is no cell =
coverage.  I don't have an aux GPS and am "stand alone".

Try:
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Go to settings, general, location services =3D on, cell data =3D off, =
and, airplane mode =3D off.

 I can fly the approach on Wingsx geo ref plates and it follows along, =
with a near match to my Garmin 430W, in both position and speed.  The =
iPad is not waas GPS but sure knows where it is.  The geo referenced =
plates cannot be used with any accuracy to fly the approach as the =
pipper a generic twin engine airliner is scaled about 2-3times longer =
than a 6,000 ft  runway on the approach plate.  But it is a very good =
tool for situational awareness.=20

Bob Mitchell

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:52 PM, H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net> =
wrote:

> Bob have you tried the GPS functionality w/ the 3G sim card removed =
and being disconnected to wi-fi or other 'GPS' devices? [ie; =
stand-alone,  not connected to any network]
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> I've got one sitting on my lap right now and it's not connected to =
either my wi-fi or 3G, it has no clue where on the face of the earth it =
is.. When I ask for directions it asks me to enable my wifi or 3G to =
assess my location.  I've yet to see anyone [apple or otherwise] =
flat-out state that the iPad has a SAT receiver inside.. I'd love =
to/know for certain but for now, I have to assume the ommission is as =
good as proof that there is no receiver built in. I'd be most happy if =
someone could show or prove that there is infact a receiver as I'd have =
lot more faith in it over what I do now :) However, if it did, I would =
think it would at least know what continent I'm on w/ out being =
connected to something.
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> Jarrett Johnson
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> > Gee, my iPad with GPS seems to work quite well, most so called=20
> > Apple experts have no idea what's under the hood once you get past=20=

> > memory and capacity.  The gps function is built into the 3GS chip,=20=

> > as I understand it.=20
> >=20
> > The GPS Works great also when my cell phone gets no signal.=20
> > Bob=20
> >=20
> > Sent from my iPad=20
> >=20
> > On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:24 AM, "Dominic V. Crain"=20
> > <domcrain@tpg.com.au> wrote:=20
> >=20
> > > Yeah =E2=80=93 I just went to look at an iPad as a b=E2=80=99day =
present (for=20
> > meself) and when quizzed the so-called Apple expert finally=20
> > acknowledged there is no GPS receiver built in to the iPad =E2=80=93 =
you=20
> > have to be in range of a 3G cell tower. Not a lot of use in the=20
> > outback>=20
> > > Cheers=20
> > >=20
> > > Dom Crain=20
> > >=20
> > > VH-CZJ=20
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of=20
> > H & J Johnson=20
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 16 November 2010 1:21 PM=20
> > > To: lml@lancaironline.net=20
> > > Subject: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit=20
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just=20
> > upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was=20
> > wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not=20
> > come w/ a GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a=20
> > GPS but it isn't infact and gps.  I can't get any 'gps' functions=20
> > to work on my w/out the 3G operating.=20
> > >=20
> > > As to external GPS units that integrate w/ blue tooth, what or=20
> > where does one get such a beast?=20
> > >=20
> > > REALLY liking my iPAD for in-cockpit work. I did an entire trip=20
> > last night central Canada to Denver and return to Canada w/ two=20
> > stops and didn't pick up a single chart book or map [I have them=20
> > still, I just don't use them]. It doesn't get better than that!!=20
> > Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver Metro area and=20
> > getting 'yanked' around a bit switching up arrival plates or=20
> > approach plates is a synch.=20
> > >=20
> > > Couldn't recommend it enough!=20
> > >=20
> > > Btw, to date [only been using a iPad for ~4 weeks] I've not had=20
> > issue w/ heat or altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a=20
> > cabin alt of 7-8000'=20
> > >=20
> > > Fwiw=20
> > >=20
> > > Jarrett Johnson=20
> > >=20
> > > 235/320 55%=20
> >
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