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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit
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=3CP=3EJohn=2C I thought so too=2C until I started to talking to the App=
le rep at the store=2E I=27ve got the second highest level iPad =5B32Gb =
w/ 3G=5D and there is no GPS =5Bas in =27true=27 GPS w/ a built in recei=
ver=5D=2E What it does have is what they call A-GPS or =22Assisted=22 GP=
S through connection to a 3G tower=2E If your connected to=26nbsp=3B3G=2C=
=26nbsp=3Bthen you have a =27sorta=27 GPS=2C however there is still no a=
ctuall connection or reception of SAT signals=2E=26nbsp=3B For me flying=
 =40 FL240 it=27s pretty useless in this regard=2C but I would still rec=
ommend it as a tool for carrying your charts etc=2E Foreflight and Flite=
Deck are very nice=2E=3C/P=3E
=3CP=3EGoogle the iPad w/ GPS stuff=2C there is lots of ppl not terribly=
 happy that it doesn=27t infact have a proper receiver=2E=3C/P=3E
=3CP=3EFwiw=3C/P=3E
=3CP=3EJarrett Johnson=3C/P=3E
=3CP=3E235/320 55=25=3C/P=3E
=3CP=3E=26gt=3B Not true=2E The higher end models do have gps=2E I know =
because my =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B wife got me the wrong one to start with=2E I=
 had to take it back and =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B pay a few hundred more to get =
what I needed=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B On Nov 16=
=2C 2010=2C at 6=3A24 AM=2C =22Dominic V=2E Crain=22 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26=
lt=3Bdomcrain=40tpg=2Ecom=2Eau=26gt=3B wrote=3A =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=
=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Yeah =96 I just went to look at an iPad as a b=92day p=
resent (for =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B meself) and when quizzed the so-called Appl=
e expert finally =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B acknowledged there is no GPS receiver =
built in to the iPad =96 you =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B have to be in range of a 3=
G cell tower=2E Not a lot of use in the =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B outback=26gt=3B=
 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Cheers =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26g=
t=3B =26gt=3B Dom Crain =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=
=3B VH-CZJ =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B=
 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B From=3A Lancair Mai=
ling List =5Blml=40lancaironline=2Enet=5D On Behalf Of =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =
H =26amp=3B J Johnson =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Sent=3A Tuesday=2C 16 No=
vember 2010 1=3A21 PM =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B To=3A lml=40lancaironlin=
e=2Enet =3CBR=3E
=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Subject=3A =5BLML=5D Re=3A iPad in the cockpit =3CBR=3E=
=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26=
gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Bob Are you positive that your unit has =
a built in GPS=3F I just =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B upgrade my iPad from the stand=
ard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B wanting the unit w/=
 a GPS but was told that infact they do-not =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B come w/ a G=
PS=2E There are =27GPS emulators=27 that make it work like a =3CBR=3E=26=
gt=3B GPS but it isn=27t infact and gps=2E=26nbsp=3B I can=27t get any =27=
gps=27 functions =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B to work on my w/out the 3G operating=2E=
 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B As to external GPS =
units that integrate w/ blue tooth=2C what or =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B where doe=
s one get such a beast=3F =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26=
gt=3B REALLY liking my iPAD for in-cockpit work=2E I did an entire trip =
=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B last night central Canada to Denver and return to Canad=
a w/ two =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B stops and didn=27t pick up a single chart book=
 or map =5BI have them =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B still=2C I just don=27t use them=
=5D=2E It doesn=27t get better than that!! =3CBR=3E
=26gt=3B Esp when going into somewhere larger like Denver Metro area and=
 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B getting =27yanked=27 around a bit switching up arrival=
 plates or =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B approach plates is a synch=2E =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B=
 =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Couldn=27t recommend it enough! =3CB=
R=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Btw=2C to date =5Bonly b=
een using a iPad for =7E4 weeks=5D I=27ve not had =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B issue=
 w/ heat or altitude and I generally fly Fl240 or Fl250 w/ a =3CBR=3E=26=
gt=3B cabin alt of 7-8000=27 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =
=26gt=3B Fwiw =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B Jarret=
t Johnson =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B 235/320 55=
=25 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3C/P=3E=3C/BODY=3E