X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.98.42.44] (HELO smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4580974 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:34:43 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.98.42.44; envelope-from=rmitch1@hughes.net Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay01.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A5A54599FCB1 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:34:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Panda: scanned! X-Spam-Summary: 2,-3.05263,0,5dc44fc7a9331941,d41d8cd98f00b204,rmitch1@hughes.net,lml@lancaironline.net:lml@lancaironline.net,RULES_HIT:4:152:355:379:476:509:541:599:901:946:960:962:967:972:973:983:988:989:1189:1208:1212:1221:1260:1261:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1432:1437:1515:1516:1517:1518:1545:1550:1575:1589:1594:1605:1608:1676:1685:1730:1776:1792:2068:2069:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2525:2553:2568:2610:2612:2639:2682:2685:2691:2736:2743:2829:2857:2859:2861:2892:2901:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3000:3022:3027:3138:3586:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:4774:5007:6117:6119:7652:7679:7862:7903:7904:8599:8603:8957:8987:9010:9025:9177:9388:9392:9416:9908:10004:10016:10049:10086:10128:10305:10346:10394,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-Session-Marker: 726D6974636831406875676865732E6E6574 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 18561 Received: from [192.168.1.107] (dpc6744191027.direcpc.com [67.44.191.27]) (Authenticated sender: rmitch1@hughes.net) by omf08.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:34:04 +0000 (UTC) References: X-Original-Message-Id: <147E1124-5AD3-41EB-972C-6F9C5EBCBA4F@hughes.net> From: Robert Mitchell X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-225740851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B500) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B500) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: iPad in the cockpit X-Original-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:34:29 -0600 X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" --Apple-Mail-14-225740851 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =46rom blog.foreflight.com ForeFlight is announcing support for two external GPS receivers for = iPad, iPhone, iPod touch. We=E2=80=99ve collected a great deal of data about how the iPad and = iPhone built-in GPS receivers work in the cockpit, and quickly came to = the conclusion that an external GPS receiver option is sorely needed for = these devices. With those needs in mind, we tested a variety of options = over the last few months and finally found two hardware solutions that = are up to the task of keeping oriented in the flight environment. The first supported device is the Bad Elf GPS Receiver for iPod touch, = iPhone, and iPad (66-channel, SBAS/WAAS, 10Hz). This small, directly = attached GPS receiver avoids the need for charging a separate device = while providing high quality GPS fixes for ForeFlight Mobile HD. The = BadElf GPS requires zero setup =E2=80=93 just plug it into your iPad or = iPhone and you have an upgraded GPS signal. More information is = available on the Bad Elf web site. Bad Elf GPS Receiver for iPad and iPhone The second is the GNS 5870 MFI Bluetooth GPS Made for = iPhone/iPad/iTouch. This battery-powered device provides wireless GPS = signals to the iPad and iPhone. There is some initial setup required to = connect the MFI over Bluetooth, but it doesn=E2=80=99t drain any battery = life from your iPad or iPhone. More information is available on the GNS = web site. GNS 5870 MFI Bluetooth GPS Made for iPhone/iPad/iTouch In our flight testing, both devices were able to maintain a fix with = even very weak GPS signal strength. Pilots flying with ForeFlight can benefit from either device. For iPad = WIFI+3G owners, these devices can replace the built-in GPS receiver for = significantly better reliability and more consistent accuracy values. = For customers with devices lacking an internal GPS receiver, like the = iPad WiFi-only model, these devices allow in-flight GPS positioning that = isn=E2=80=99t otherwise possible. These devices are authorized by Apple = and require no special modifications to iPad or iPhone hardware. Many of our customer know that we believed the GPS receiver in the iPad = was not up to certain tasks and thus we intentionally avoided building = in features that would lead pilots to believe otherwise. For example, = showing GPS location on an approach plate without higher-quality GPS = hardware was a bad idea, in our opinion =E2=80=93 too many customers = reported intermittent loss of GPS signal from the iPad or iPhone. With = the availability of this newer hardware, however, we intend to open = access to features that can benefit from this enhanced hardware. Stay = tuned. NOTE to access GPS, go to settings, make sure airplane mode is off and = location is on. Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:20 PM, H & J Johnson = wrote: > Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just upgrade = my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was wanting the = unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not come w/ a GPS. There = are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a GPS but it isn't infact and = gps. I can't get any 'gps' functions to work on my w/out the 3G = operating. >=20 > Snip.... >=20 > Jarrett Johnson >=20 > 235/320 55% >=20 > > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --Apple-Mail-14-225740851 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=46rom blog.foreflight.com


We=E2=80=99v= e collected a great deal of data about how the iPad and iPhone built-in = GPS receivers work in the cockpit, and quickly came to the conclusion = that an external GPS receiver option is sorely needed for these devices. =  With those needs in mind, we tested a variety of options over the = last few months and finally found two hardware solutions that are up to = the task of keeping oriented in the flight environment.

The first supported device is the Bad Elf GPS Receiver for iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad = (66-channel, SBAS/WAAS, 10Hz)3D"".  This small, directly = attached GPS receiver avoids the need for charging a separate device = while providing high quality GPS fixes for ForeFlight Mobile HD. =  The BadElf GPS requires zero setup =E2=80=93 just plug it into = your iPad or iPhone and you have an upgraded GPS signal.  More = information is available on the Bad Elf web site.

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Bad Elf = GPS Receiver for iPad and iPhone

The = second is the GNS 5870 MFI Bluetooth GPS Made for = iPhone/iPad/iTouch3D"".  This battery-powered = device provides wireless GPS signals to the iPad and iPhone.  There = is some initial setup required to connect the MFI over Bluetooth, but it = doesn=E2=80=99t drain any battery life from your iPad or iPhone. =  More information is available on the GNS web = site.

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GNS 5870 = MFI Bluetooth GPS Made for iPhone/iPad/iTouch

In our flight testing, both devices were able = to maintain a fix with even very weak GPS signal = strength.

Pilots flying with = ForeFlight can benefit from either device.  For iPad WIFI+3G = owners, these devices can replace the built-in GPS receiver for = significantly better reliability and more consistent accuracy = values.  For customers with devices lacking an internal GPS = receiver, like the iPad WiFi-only model, these devices allow in-flight = GPS positioning that isn=E2=80=99t otherwise possible.  These = devices are authorized by Apple and require no special modifications to = iPad or iPhone hardware.

Many of = our customer know that we believed the GPS receiver in the iPad was not = up to certain tasks and thus we intentionally avoided building in = features that would lead pilots to believe otherwise. For example, = showing GPS location on an approach plate without higher-quality GPS = hardware was a bad idea, in our opinion =E2=80=93 too many customers = reported intermittent loss of GPS signal from the iPad or iPhone. With = the availability of this newer hardware, however, we intend to open = access to features that can benefit from this enhanced hardware. Stay = tuned.

NOTE to access GPS, go = to settings, make sure airplane mode is off and location is = on.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 15, 2010, at = 8:20 PM, H & J Johnson <hjjohnson@sasktel.net> = wrote:

Bob Are you positive that your unit has a built in GPS? I just = upgrade my iPad from the standard wi-fi to the 3G + wi-fi and was = wanting the unit w/ a GPS but was told that infact they do-not come w/ a = GPS. There are 'GPS emulators' that make it work like a GPS but it isn't = infact and gps.  I can't get any 'gps' functions to work on my = w/out the 3G operating.

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