X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:46:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4498280 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:24:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.96; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o98ENTh2024002 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:23:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [67.204.159.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 20F30E0000A1; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:23:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-Id: From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPad Mail (7B405) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Performance Engines Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 7B405) X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 07:03:26 -0700 References: x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:384099296:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29064caf29614785 X-AOL-IP: 67.204.159.207 Fraud, safety and unapproved parts come to mind....hmmm I think a = California man went to jail for that last year. Sent from my iPad On Oct 8, 2010, at 5:18 AM, "Bruce Gray" wrote: > And the FSDO will say "Airworthyness has no meaning in an experimental > engine." I doubt if this shop is putting any of these mods on = certified > engines/airframes. >=20 > Bruce > www.Glasair.org=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of > vtailjeff@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:46 PM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: Performance Engines >=20 > My recommendation to all that have been burned by this individual is = to > contact the FAA and complain about the unairworthy product put out by > Performance. You might make a difference and save someone's life. = start > with the FSDO in your area or his. >=20 > Jeff Edwards >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Oct 6, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Mark Davis wrote: >=20 >> The recent posts regarding Performance Engines "issues" caused me to > again look at my own experiences with them. These posts proved to be > the last straw that have now resulted in my losing complete confidence > in the Performance Engines Lycoming IO-540 installed in my Legacy. I = am > now in the process of having the engine overhauled, despite the fact > that it runs very well, with just over 100 hours time on it. I can no > longer accept the potential but unknown risks that I must = unfortunately > admit I've been rationalizing as minor issues for those 100 hours. >>=20 >> I originally chose to buy my engine from Performance based on = positive > recommendations and a personal visit to their shop (quite impressive). > My first inkling of problems was while flow checking the fuel = injection > system prior to first start. The fuel side seal of the Romec engine > fuel pump (listed as overhauled on my purchase invoice) flowed fuel = thru > the seal vent at least as fast as thru the injectors when using the > electric fuel pump. I contacted Performance considering it a warranty > item to which they agreed. I was told to remove and return the pump = and > they would replace it within about a week. Researching the fuel pump > I'd removed found that there was a recurrent AD on the model installed > on the engine that requiring re torquing the screws on the cover at > first 25 hours and then 50 hour intervals. Given the location on the > engine and the significant hassle of complying with the AD, I first > asked Performance why I had not been provided a modified AD free pump > and was told that what I had was considered serviceable and met our > purchase contract agreement for all parts to be new or overhauled. I > offered to pay the cost difference between the AD pump and am AD free > modified one. This was verbally agreed to by phone and I was told = that > I could expect to receive a replacement pump shortly. That was the = next > to last telephone contact I had with them. I was then faced with no > further phone contact despite numerous calls which were either not > answered or not returned over a several week period (apparently = similar > to recent post experience). I then made a phone call using a friend's > phone which was answered right away. After a short unproductive > discussion about when I might receive a replacement pump, I asked to > have my original pump returned and that I would deal with the problem > myself. The pump was returned within about 2 days and I sent it to a > well known repair facility in OK. As part of part of my return of the > original pump for the core charge, I was informed that, in their > opinion, the original pump had not, in fact, been overhauled and was = not > serviceable. This whole process cost me nearly $2K which I felt = should > have been covered under warranty. >>=20 >> Since first startup the engine has leaked oil from all 6 cylinder > bases (heavier from cylinders 1 and 2 and weeping from the other 4). = In > addition there has been a case seam (parting line) leak forward of the > sump which is enough that after an oil change without running the > engine, a small amount of oil appears on the floor or cowling within > about a day under that area of the parting line. I have tried some > sealing efforts on these leaks on the advice of several A&P's with > little success. I have not contacted Performance as I will no longer > attempt to do any business with them. >>=20 >> After installing the newly overhauled fuel pump from OK noted above, > shortly after engine start, I found a few drops of fluid from the same > fuel pump seal vent line which, in this case, proved to be oil vice > 100LL. The seal from the accessory case drive to fuel pump continues = to > have a small weep of oil. >>=20 >> My Legacy is now down for engine teardown and any necessary repair. >>=20 >> Mark Davis >> Legacy N422MD >> San Diego, CA >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html