X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:47:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pz0-f52.google.com ([209.85.210.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4492856 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:57:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.52; envelope-from=carbonflier@gmail.com Received: by pzk28 with SMTP id 28so4419229pzk.25 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Am3lwbJmjZSGKVY0P4BZom78K+MEI4hqvNMlYaSkFDoUmQPd0JuLYR3m+/1dxssea0 Jy/03/93UwmPpy+jq1M4YRsbE9/FSERiheaQPH504HhrnRtL2AK0E/nXfWRAvq1qc8/f xsNboQNuJNFtOBmZHiKelwL9wBfjQ/p5PuQsE= Received: by 10.114.36.1 with SMTP id j1mr12288288waj.141.1286225812588; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [172.16.45.201] ([209.137.234.30]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm10028941wam.13.2010.10.04.13.56.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <4CAA3F92.8020208@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 14:56:50 -0600 From: David Standish User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [Fwd: RE: [LML] [Fwd: RE: [LML] [Fwd: RE: [LML] Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno]]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I appreciate you knowledge and insight. Thanks David LNC-4 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [LML] [Fwd: RE: [LML] [Fwd: RE: [LML] Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno]] Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 19:43:24 -0400 From: farnsworth To: lml@lancaironline.net David, I think that the kinetic energy possessed by an aircraft (at 375 MPH) of our type will most certainly allow conversion to enough altitude to return to the airport if you happen to be over the airport. There are certainly ways to not have a successful conclusion. There were at least three things that worked against George, once he decided on RW 26: 1. Prop was still turning though the engine was not producing power 2. He elected to put the gear down early 3. The strong wind was pushing him away from the runway I am not trying to second guess George; it is just that under normal circumstances, given the kinetic energy of the aircraft and his position over the airport, the engine failure should have resulted in another uneventful landing. Since the results were bad, you look for reasons. Above, I listed the reason I think are relevant. Since I was flying in the race with George I have some understanding of the conditions. But, my reason for responding in the first place was to express my opinion the 375 MPH will allow plenty of altitude to land. Lynn Farnsworth Super Legacy #235 TSIO-550 Powered Race #44 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of David Standish Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 01:00 To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] [Fwd: RE: [LML] [Fwd: RE: [LML] Thunder Mustang Crash at Reno]] My point was that if George had trouble converting 375mph into enough altitude to return to the opposite direction runway how am I going to do it with only 100mph just after takeoff. There was a lot of talk about his choice to go right to 26 but I certainly don't have the credentials or the nerve to second guess him. I was very glad to see him get up out of the airplane but a little shocked that the EMR crew let him. David