X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:43:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.143] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4480017 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:21:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.143; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o8OKKoaC027704 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:20:50 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id q.efd.8fef0de (34979) for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d22.mail.aol.com (magic-d22.mail.aol.com [172.19.155.138]) by cia-da08.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA084-88a34c9d081de5; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:20:45 -0400 From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <67220.7ab20a9e.39ce621d@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:20:45 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Reflex on the 235 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_67220.7ab20a9e.39ce621d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.5 sub 155 X-AOL-IP: 24.15.17.119 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Sky2high@aol.com --part1_67220.7ab20a9e.39ce621d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wolfgang, 'Tain't that simple.......... It could be done only as the flap is put into reflex as one does not want the ailerons extended below the wingtip as the flaps go down as this can make it easier to stall the wing tip. Reflex ailerons would be possible by a mechanism to lessen the length of the linkage between sticks. This assumes that when one is in a fully reflexed banked turn there still is enough travel in the upgoing aileron (reduction of lift) and, even though the down going one may not go below the wing tip, lift will occur because it is going out of reflex. Now, one need only consider the effect of this on stall propagation and CG issues. Grayhawk In a message dated 9/24/2010 12:32:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Wolfgang@MiCom.net writes: The ideal would be to have some coupling between the ailerons and flaps. Wolfgang ____________________________________ From: CavittP@aol.com Sender: Subject: Re: [LML] Reflex on the 235 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:47:39 -0400 To: lml@lancaironline.net Pursuant to my last post, if you have a look at my YouTube video entitled "San Diego Lancair," as the plane accelerates away from the helicopter shooting the footage, you can see how far up the flaps are reflexed. The ailerons are also reflexed to line up with the outboard end of the flaps. This has proven to be the best configuration for my particular aircraft. Pete Cavitt - N320PL 619-701-0784 Cell _www.petecavitt.com_ (http://www.petecavitt.com/) --part1_67220.7ab20a9e.39ce621d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wolfgang,

'Tain't that simple..........

It could be done only as the flap is put into reflex as one does not= want=20 the ailerons extended below the wingtip as the flaps go down as this can= make it=20 easier to stall the wing tip. Reflex ailerons would be pos= sible=20 by a mechanism to lessen the length of the linkage between sticks. = This=20 assumes that when one is in a fully reflexed banked turn there=20 still is enough travel in the upgoing aileron (reduction of lift) and= , even=20 though the down going one may not go below the wing tip, lift wi= ll=20 occur because it is going out of reflex. Now, one need only consider= the=20 effect of this on stall propagation and CG issues.

Grayhawk

In a message dated 9/24/2010 12:32:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 Wolfgang@MiCom.net writes:

The ideal would be to have some couplin= g between=20 the ailerons and flaps.

Wolfgang

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From: CavittP@aol.com

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Subject: Re: [LML] Reflex on the 235

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:47:39=20 -0400

To: lml@lancaironli= ne.net

Pursuant to my last post, if you have a look at my YouTube vi= deo=20 entitled "San Diego Lancair," as the plane accelerates away from= the=20 helicopter shooting the footage, you can see how far up the flaps= are=20 reflexed. The ailerons are also reflexed to line up with the= =20 outboard end of the flaps. This has proven to be the best=20 configuration for my particular aircraft.=20

Pete Cavitt - N320PL
619-701-0784= =20 Cell
www= .petecavitt.com