X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:15:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.63] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTP id 4126071 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:03:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.63; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XpzgD+WofpNcIVg8U0wwLg2tAdeExgHl6/EdXi7Fl0UIc1hQ80vA1yDg0IoR5jUR; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.57.118.190] (helo=ccaselt3) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Nh9xl-00019O-NJ for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:02:46 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <179E670E79E44768AC13C7BF2F206922@nvidia.com> From: "Colyn Case at earthlink" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Powered Tow For Legacy X-Original-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:02:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_309A_01CAAE69.13426D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940e7624bae21409127f55e337a7339866c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.57.118.190 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_309A_01CAAE69.13426D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynn, If I had it to do over again I would have got a used lawn tractor with a = tow bar. Issues: 1) traction. the physics of getting a lot of wheel on that one wheel = are just not great 2) steering. let's see I'm pushing the airplane up the apron but I = need to make a little turn here and....Ooops....now we're going down the = apron 3) momemtum. I honestly don't know how the powertow is on this but I = can tell you that the tow buddy electric never achieves sufficient speed = to use the airplane's 3000 lbs to get you up and over the apron. Compare 18hp tractor, lots of weight including yours, really precise = steering with no interruption in power, and probably not so pricey. Colyn ----- Original Message -----=20 From: farnsworth=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: [LML] Powered Tow For Legacy I recall, a while back, that there were questions about powered towing = equipment for Lancairs. =20 Enclosed are emails I exchanged with Alisha at Northwest Manufacturing = (makers of powered towing equipment) concerning my search for a power = tow for my Legacy. For the past five years I have just pulled it around = by myself. I, recently changed hangers and the new hanger entry ramp is = uphill and it why too much work to put it away by myself. So I decided = that was enough of that and started a search for some kind of power tow. =20 I looked at several types. I sent measurements of the nose gear to = these folks to determine if their power tow could be used on the Legacy. = They determined that they could make an adapter that will use the = standard Legacy tow bar attach point to connect their 40EZ Tow. =20 If there are any folks out there that have been looking for a power = Tow for there Lancair, perhaps this will fill your needs. =20 Lynn Farnsworth Super Legacy #235 TSIO-550 Powered Race #44 MMO .6 Mach -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: sales [mailto:sales@powertow.com]=20 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:47 To: 'farnsworth' Subject: RE: Tow Attach point for the Lancair Legacy =20 The extensions and spacer kit are both necessary to be able to reach = and hook to your tow pins on the Legacy. Our unit does not weigh much and is not hard to move without the = Casters, although most people prefer having them. =20 Thank you! Alisha Northwest Manufacturing Inc. 10179 N. Navion Drive Hayden ID 83835 Phone:208-635-5352 Fax:208-635-5251 www.powertow.com =20 Copies of our owner's manuals may be found at: = http://www.powertow.com/download.html =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: farnsworth [mailto:farnsworth@charter.net]=20 Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 7:21 AM To: 'sales' Subject: RE: Tow Attach point for the Lancair Legacy What are the Extensions and Spacer kits? Are they necessary or just = nice to have? =20 Is the unit hard to move without the Caster wheels? =20 Regards, =20 Lynn=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: sales [mailto:sales@powertow.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:31 To: 'farnsworth' Subject: RE: Tow Attach point for the Lancair Legacy =20 Good day Lynn, There is a full quote below. =20 =20 40EZ $1195.00 Custom Legacy adaptors 65.00 Extensions kit 40.00 Spacer kit 15.00 Caster wheels (optional) 59.00 These are to make it more = convenient for free wheeling to and from the aircraft. Opti 4 oil (optional) 50.00 6 bottles lasts about six = years. extends your two year engine warranty into a four year. Shipping 94.00 =20 Total $1518.00 This price includes all options above. =20 =20 We accept Visa, Master card or Discover.The information required to = process order is card number, expiration date, CVC code ( 3 digit code) = on back of card, Full billing and shipping address, contact name and = phone number.=20 If you have any further questions please let us know.=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Thank you! Alisha Northwest Manufacturing Inc. 10179 N. Navion Drive Hayden ID 83835 Phone:208-635-5352 Fax:208-635-5251 www.powertow.com =20 Copies of our owner's manuals may be found at: = http://www.powertow.com/download.html =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: farnsworth [mailto:farnsworth@charter.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:33 PM To: 'sales' Subject: RE: Tow Attach point for the Lancair Legacy Alisha, =20 Could you give me a total price for the 40 EZ PowerTow with the = attachment for my Lancair Legacy? How much are shipping charges to = Georgia? =20 Regards, =20 Lynn Farnsworth =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: sales [mailto:sales@powertow.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 18:22 To: 'farnsworth' Subject: RE: Tow Attach point for the Lancair Legacy =20 Hello Lynn, Thank you for the information. I will run everything past my machine = guys and we will contact you in the morning. =20 Thank you! Alisha Northwest Manufacturing Inc. 10179 N. Navion Drive Hayden ID 83835 Phone:208-635-5352 Fax:208-635-5251 www.powertow.com =20 Copies of our owner's manuals may be found at: = http://www.powertow.com/download.html =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: farnsworth [mailto:farnsworth@charter.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:13 PM To: 'sales' Subject: Tow Attach point for the Lancair Legacy See the attachment for a picture of the tow point for Lancair Legacy = aircraft. The tow point is just above the nose wheel case. It is a flat = plate that is 2 =BD" wide. At the front of the flat plate are two arms = that extend =BD" on each side for a total width of 3 =BD". The arms are = .318" in diameter. The distance from the ground to the center of the tow = arms in 13 =BD'.=20 =20 I faxed the "how to measure for powertow adapters" measurements for = towing by the center point of the nose wheel. =20 I plan to use a 40EZ model. =20 Lynn Farnsworth 220 Hembree Circle Roswell, GA 30076 =20 H 770-475-0966 C 770-841-0457 =20 farnsworth@charter.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_309A_01CAAE69.13426D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lynn,
 
If I had it to do over again I would = have got a=20 used lawn tractor with a tow bar.
Issues:
1) traction.   the physics of = getting a=20 lot of wheel on that one wheel are just not great
2) steering.   let's see I'm = pushing the=20 airplane up the apron but I need to make a little turn here = and....Ooops....now=20 we're going down the apron
3) momemtum.   I honestly = don't know how=20 the powertow is on this but I can tell you that the tow buddy electric = never=20 achieves sufficient speed to use the airplane's 3000 lbs to get you up = and over=20 the apron.
 
Compare 18hp tractor, lots of weight = including=20 yours, really precise steering with no interruption in power, and = probably not=20 so pricey.
 
 
Colyn
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 farnsworth
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 = 4:30=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Powered Tow For=20 Legacy

I recall, a = while=20 back, that there were questions about powered towing equipment for=20 Lancairs.

 

Enclosed = are emails I=20 exchanged with Alisha at Northwest Manufacturing (makers of powered = towing=20 equipment) concerning my search for a power tow for my Legacy. For the = past=20 five years I have just pulled it around by myself. I, recently changed = hangers=20 and the new hanger entry ramp is uphill and it why too much work to = put it=20 away by myself. So I decided that was enough of that and started a = search for=20 some kind of power tow.

 

I looked at = several=20 types. I sent measurements of the nose gear to these folks to = determine if=20 their power tow could be used on the Legacy. They determined that they = could=20 make an adapter that will use the standard Legacy tow bar attach point = to=20 connect their 40EZ Tow.

 

If there = are any=20 folks out there that have been looking for a power Tow for there = Lancair,=20 perhaps this will fill your needs.

 

Lynn=20 Farnsworth

Super = Legacy=20 #235

TSIO-550=20 Powered

Race=20 #44

MMO .6=20 Mach

From: sales=20 [mailto:sales@powertow.com]
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 = 10:47
To:=20 'farnsworth'
Subject: RE: Tow=20 Attach point for the Lancair Legacy

 

The = extensions and=20 spacer kit are both necessary to be able to reach and hook to your tow = pins on=20 the Legacy.

Our unit = does not=20 weigh much and is not hard to move without the Casters, although most = people=20 prefer having them.

 

Thank=20 you!

Alisha

Northwest Manufacturing=20 Inc.

10179 N.=20 Navion Drive

Hayden ID=20 83835

Phone:208-635-5352

Fax:208-635-5251

www.powertow.com=

 

Copies of our owner's = manuals may=20 be found at: http://www.powertow.com/do= wnload.html

 

 

From:=20 farnsworth [mailto:farnsworth@charter.net]
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 = 7:21=20 AM
To: = 'sales'
Subject: RE: Tow Attach point = for the=20 Lancair Legacy

What are = the=20 Extensions and Spacer kits? Are they necessary or just nice to=20 have?

 

Is the unit = hard to=20 move without the Caster wheels?

 

Regards,

 

Lynn=20

 

From: sales=20 [mailto:sales@powertow.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, = 2010=20 11:31
To:=20 'farnsworth'
Subject: RE: Tow=20 Attach point for the Lancair Legacy

 

Good day = Lynn,

There is a = full quote=20 below.

 

 

40EZ          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;     =20 $1195.00

Custom = Legacy=20 = adaptors     65.00

Extensions=20 = kit           &nbs= p;       =20 40.00

Spacer=20 = kit           &nbs= p;            = ; =20 15.00

Caster = wheels=20 (optional)      59.00 These are to make = it more=20 convenient for free wheeling to and from the=20 aircraft.

Opti 4 oil=20 = (optional)          &nb= sp;  =20 50.00 6 bottles lasts about six years. extends your two year = engine=20 warranty into a four year.

Shipping         &nbs= p;            = ;      94.00

 

           =  =20 Total $1518.00  This price includes all options=20 above.

 

 

We accept = Visa,=20 Master card or Discover.The information required to process order is = card=20 number, expiration date, CVC code ( 3 digit code) on back of card, = Full=20 billing and shipping address, contact name and phone number.=20

If you have = any=20 further questions please let us know.

 

 

 

 

Thank=20 you!

Alisha

Northwest Manufacturing=20 Inc.

10179 N.=20 Navion Drive

Hayden ID=20 83835

Phone:208-635-5352

Fax:208-635-5251

www.powertow.com=

 

Copies of our owner's = manuals may=20 be found at: http://www.powertow.com/do= wnload.html

 

 

From:=20 farnsworth [mailto:farnsworth@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, = 2010 4:33=20 PM
To: = 'sales'
Subject: RE: Tow Attach point = for the=20 Lancair Legacy

Alisha,

 

Could you = give me a=20 total price for the 40 EZ PowerTow with the attachment for my Lancair = Legacy?=20 How much are shipping charges to Georgia?

 

Regards,

 

Lynn=20 Farnsworth

 

From: sales=20 [mailto:sales@powertow.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, = 2010=20 18:22
To:=20 'farnsworth'
Subject: RE: Tow=20 Attach point for the Lancair Legacy

 

Hello = Lynn,

Thank you = for the=20 information. I will run everything past my machine guys and we will = contact=20 you in the morning.

 

Thank=20 you!

Alisha

Northwest Manufacturing=20 Inc.

10179 N.=20 Navion Drive

Hayden ID=20 83835

Phone:208-635-5352

Fax:208-635-5251

www.powertow.com=

 

Copies of our owner's = manuals may=20 be found at: http://www.powertow.com/do= wnload.html

 

 

From:=20 farnsworth [mailto:farnsworth@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, = 2010 3:13=20 PM
To: = 'sales'
Subject: Tow Attach point for = the Lancair=20 Legacy

See the = attachment=20 for a picture of the tow point for Lancair Legacy aircraft. The tow = point is=20 just above the nose wheel case. It is a flat plate that is 2 =BD=94 = wide. At the=20 front of the flat plate are two arms that extend =BD=94 on each side = for a total=20 width of 3 =BD=94. The arms are .318=94 in diameter. The distance from = the ground to=20 the center of the tow arms in 13 =BD=92.

 

I faxed the = =93how to=20 measure for powertow adapters=94 measurements for towing by the center = point of=20 the nose wheel.

 

I plan to = use a 40EZ=20 model.

 

Lynn=20 Farnsworth

220 Hembree = Circle

Roswell, = GA 30076

 

H=20 770-475-0966

C=20 770-841-0457

 

farnsworth@charter.net

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