X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:47:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s36.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.111] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 3997251 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:05:19 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.111; envelope-from=sltroutman@hotmail.com Received: from BLU0-SMTP27 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:04:43 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [98.22.58.238] X-Originating-Email: [sltroutman@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: sltroutman@hotmail.com Received: from YOUR99B2A1C14F ([98.22.58.238]) by BLU0-SMTP27.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:04:43 -0800 From: "Shaun Troutman" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Vne is NOT a meaningless number X-Original-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 06:04:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA724C.2D4A3780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2009 12:04:43.0308 (UTC) FILETIME=[77B1FEC0:01CA727E] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA724C.2D4A3780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VNE is not always set for true airspeed! Depends on the aircraft, but = yes Vans is based on true airspeed. Also, flutter does not ALWAYS happen = at max speed. V-tail Bonanzas had just as many failures in the landing = approach as at cruise. 1 aircraft that comes to mind right away was the = V-tail in Arizona in the mid 80's it let loose on a 1/2 mile final.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Kennedy=20 To: lml=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:29 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Vne is NOT a meaningless number Van of Van's Aircraft wrote about VNE a couple of years ago. Much to = my surprise, VNE is true airspeed, not indicated. It's pretty easy to = exceed in my Lancair. Results can be explosive, meaning onset of flutter = to component failure can be nearly instantaneous. I can't wear a = parachute in my plane (Lancair 320), so I wouldn't screw around with it. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA724C.2D4A3780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
VNE is not always set for true airspeed! Depends = on the=20 aircraft, but yes Vans is based on true airspeed. Also, flutter does not = ALWAYS=20 happen at max speed. V-tail Bonanzas had just as many failures in=20 the landing approach as at cruise. 1 aircraft that comes to mind = right away=20 was the V-tail in Arizona in the mid 80's it let loose on a 1/2 mile=20 final. 
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From:=20 Bill Kennedy
To: lml
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, = 2009 5:29=20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Vne is NOT a = meaningless number

Van of Van's Aircraft wrote about VNE a couple of years = ago.=20 Much to my surprise, VNE is true airspeed, not indicated. It's pretty = easy to=20 exceed in my Lancair. Results can be explosive, meaning onset of = flutter to=20 component failure can be nearly instantaneous. I can't wear a = parachute in my=20 plane (Lancair 320), so I wouldn't screw around with=20 it.
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