Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #53095
From: Frederick Moreno <frederickmoreno@bigpond.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: FW: InFO 09015: Benefits of AOA Instrument in Lancairs
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:23:12 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Re: InFO 09015: Benefits of AOA Instrument in Lancairs

Jeff wrote:

 

“Does anyone have the Chelton system AND one of the AOA insturments installed, and has operational experience comparing the Chelton's depiction of impending stall with the AOA's sequential indication of impending stall?”

 

I have the early Jim Frantz AOA unit (now called AOA Pro) and the early Chelton IDU-1 with Pinpoint GADAHRS.   I fly AOA for approach, with the modification that when it gets bumpy, the AOA is very sensitive and quick, too fast to be truly useful, so I cross check between AOA and airspeed which is much slower to respond, and then fly airspeed once I have conformed the AOA that I want at a particular landing weight.

 

The Chelton is set up to speak in the  head set along with the engine monitor.  Since my intercom has only two unswitched inputs, my AOA does not verbally annunciate.  However, my AOA is directly in my field of view (see photo) since I use it as the primary indicator on final approach.

 

The Chelton does a good job, particularly in the pattern when relatively slow and you bank the airplane.  It presents the visual stall warning descending half circle in yellow if you tighten the base to final turn too much.

 

However, the Chelton is not weight compensated when you are straight and level, one G.  For my airplane which is non-pressurized, the difference between light (pilot only 20 gallons of fuel, about 2300 pounds) and heavy (four porkers, some baggage and full fuel, about 3300 pounds) is substantial (43%), and substantial adjustments in speed (like 20%) are required.  I have no winglets or wing span increases, just the bare 30 foot wing.  

 

When light I slow enough on final (maybe 90 knots) that the Chelton starts to display warnings since it is calibrated to a heavier condition and thinks the airplane is going too slow, but the airplane will still float on flare.  When really heavy, approaching maybe 105 or more on short final, the AOA shows the lift reserve is getting smaller and smaller, but even through flare the Chelton never squawks.  Therefore the margin with the Chelton is fine when heavy, but excessive when light the way I have it set up.

 

Conversely, if you set your Chelton stall speeds based on flying at midweight, the Chelton may not provide enough margin when heavy.  

 

The AOA always delivers a good result.  Line up the bars at the right point and it flies onto the runway with no float and stays planted, regardless of weight.  However, the amount of braking difference between heavy and light is substantial as you might surmise.

 

Fred

 

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