X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:17:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.1] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3432599 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:24:09 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=212.27.42.1; envelope-from=alainoireaux@free.fr Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6E0940204 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:23:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [82.233.128.177] (lam60-1-82-233-128-177.fbx.proxad.net [82.233.128.177]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D37940178 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:23:27 +0100 (CET) X-Original-Message-ID: <49738FBE.6060604@free.fr> X-Original-Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:23:26 +0100 From: alain Noireaux User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: GEESE References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The solution is to advise geese they MUST be equipped with mode C transponder . Alain Noireaux Lorn H Olsen a écrit : > Matt, > > The controller is not responsible for separating IFR aircraft from VFR > aircraft, only other IFR aircraft. It is still the IFR pilots > responsibility to avoid hitting anything that he can possibly see > including VFR aircraft, birds and anything else that is up in the air. > > Lorn > >> From: Matt Reeves >> Date: January 16, 2009 10:41:25 AM GMT-05:00 >> >> Opinion by Matt Reeves: >> >> FLOCKS OF GEESE FLY SLOW and usually in a "V" shape, AND ARE EASY TO >> SEE ON A BLUE SKY DAY - AND ARE sometimes DETECTABLE ON RADAR both on >> airplanes and on the ground. Pilots WERE heros once plane hit the >> flock, but COULD have the collision with geese been avoided and the >> answer may be YES. >> >> It is possible that NEITHER pilot was looking straight out the window >> because the airplane was on aninstrument flight plan = meaning, >> controllers on the ground were responsible for aircraft separation. >> . >> . >> This aircraft was on an IFR flight plan meaning looking out the >> window was not required by the pilots since the controllers on the >> ground were responsible for separating aircraft. However, at low >> altitude, at geeseflight levels, looking out the window should be >> mandatory. Most geese do not fly in clouds. >> . >> . >> Matt > -- > Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst > DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us > LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,515 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > >