X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:24:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.125] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3304203 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:39:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=71.74.56.125; envelope-from=sdfields@austin.rr.com Received: from austin ([66.68.66.96]) by hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20081117163819.PIM26861.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@austin> for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:38:19 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <007401c9486e$28c26240$c400a8c0@rr.com> From: "Stan Fields" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: [LML] X-Original-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:37:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9483B.DD90E260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9483B.DD90E260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's a great idea Berry. Expercraft has a website, mostly for smaller = projects, that offers free builders log software and repository for = building photos.=20 http://www.expercraft.com/ Vendors pay for the site in exchange for = their links and some advertisements. It would be great if there LML = could offer a similar destination site for all of its builders. A = picture is often invaluable and ultimately we all need a Builder's Log. Stan=20 #201 L2K/RG ----- Original Message -----=20 From: F. Barry Knotts=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:18 AM Subject: [LML] Re: [LML] I'm a IV-P builder and read the LML daily. New building ideas pop up = fairly often. Since I've been building and reading since 2002 I've = covered a lot of territory and benefited greatly. I've had many = questions answered. Some before I asked. I have a special folder in my = mail client where I stash stuff that looks like it could be useful in = the future. That way it's easier to find than when I do a search of the = archives. A lot of it is IV-P specific, but there is also info about = building in general. But the LML is not the only source I have. I call Lancair. I talk to = Robert, Tim, Ben, Gary and all. I have found that there is a real = benefit to establishing communications with the "mother ship." They are = also the best source of info about updated parts, proper parts, and new = fastbuild parts. They also have .pdf instructions for new segments of = the build, eg. the new seats, the new aileron bellcrank box, etc. One of my best building resources has been a CD that Bob Pastusek = burned for me. It's got loads of pictures of his progress in building = two IV-P's. I have really picked his brain on occasion and even made a = pilgrimage to his hanger during his build. He is a master engineer and = builder. I haven't done everything his way, but where I haven't, I have = had to think long and hard about why do it any other way. I've kept a very extensive photo collection of my project . I'd be = happy to share it on a website if I knew where to put it. Warning: = there are a lot of high resolution photos, and I haven't even bonded top = to bottom yet or completed the vertical stab/rudder. But pictures say = more than a thousand words (sometimes) and answer many questions. I'll = bet a photo album could be linked to an electronic copy of the IV-P = builders manual. (If we had one.) Now the question. Do we have a stable server for photo albums that = are project specific? That is, is there a IV-P builders on-line photo = source? I've seen a couple of ES on-line photo albums, but not a lot on = IV-Ps. Would Lancair host it? Would LML host it? Does it already = exist, and I just haven't seen it? Inquiring minds...... Barry Knotts IV-P, Conti TSIO-550 builder Perrysburg, Ohio Stan Fields wrote:=20 Hello All, I've been a long time "lml listener" and last February I bought a = Legacy RG project. I have looked at as many builder's logs as I can find = and joined all the forums as well. There isn't a lot of builder chat = anywhere that I can find. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9483B.DD90E260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's a great idea Berry. Expercraft = has a=20 website, mostly for smaller projects, that offers free builders log = software and=20 repository for building photos. 
 http://www.expercraft.com/ &= nbsp;Vendors=20 pay for the site in exchange for their links and some = advertisements. It=20 would be great if there LML could offer a similar destination site for = all of=20 its builders. A picture is often invaluable and ultimately we all need a = Builder's Log.
 
Stan
#201 L2K/RG
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 F. Barry Knotts
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 = 8:18=20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: [LML]

I'm a IV-P builder and read the LML daily.  New = building=20 ideas pop up fairly often. Since I've been building and reading since = 2002=20 I've covered a lot of territory and benefited greatly.  I've had = many=20 questions answered.  Some before I asked.  I have a special = folder=20 in my mail client where I stash stuff that looks like it could be = useful in=20 the future.  That way it's easier to find than when I do a search = of the=20 archives.  A lot of it is IV-P specific, but there is also info = about=20 building in general.

But the LML is not the only source I = have.  I=20 call Lancair.  I talk to Robert, Tim, Ben, Gary and all.  I = have=20 found that there is a real benefit to establishing communications with = the=20 "mother ship."  They are also the best source of info about = updated=20 parts, proper parts, and new fastbuild parts. They also have .pdf = instructions=20 for new segments of the build, eg. the new seats, the new aileron = bellcrank=20 box, etc.

One of my best building resources has been a CD that = Bob=20 Pastusek burned for me.  It's got loads of pictures of his = progress in=20 building two IV-P's.  I have really picked his brain on occasion = and even=20 made a pilgrimage to his hanger during his build.  He is a master = engineer and builder.  I haven't done everything his way, but = where I=20 haven't, I have had to think long and hard about why do it any other=20 way.

I've kept a very extensive photo collection of my project = . =20 I'd be happy to share it on a website if I knew where to put it.  = Warning: there are a lot of high resolution photos, and I haven't even = bonded=20 top to bottom yet or completed the vertical stab/rudder.  But = pictures=20 say more than a thousand words (sometimes) and answer many = questions. =20 I'll bet a photo album could be linked to an electronic copy of the = IV-P=20 builders manual.  (If we had one.)

Now the question.  = Do we=20 have a stable server for photo albums that are project specific?  = That=20 is, is there a IV-P builders on-line photo source?  I've seen a = couple of=20 ES on-line photo albums, but not a lot on IV-Ps.  Would Lancair = host=20 it?  Would LML host it?  Does it already exist, and I just = haven't=20 seen it?

Inquiring minds......

Barry Knotts
IV-P, = Conti=20 TSIO-550 builder
Perrysburg, Ohio

Stan Fields wrote:=20

Hello = All,

I've been a long time = "lml=20 listener" and last February I bought a Legacy RG = project. I have=20 looked at as many builder's logs as I can find and joined all=20 the forums as well. There isn't a lot of builder chat anywhere = that I=20 can find. 


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