X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:24:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc2-s21.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.157] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3304430 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:56:51 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.157; envelope-from=tbrandetc@hotmail.com Received: from BAY135-W38 ([65.55.140.73]) by bay0-omc2-s21.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:56:14 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: tbrandetc@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_454227be-3544-48e3-9512-edf27c220521_" X-Originating-IP: [71.92.137.25] From: T Brand X-Original-To: "archives ttp://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LML/ Still building X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:56:14 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2008 18:56:14.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A64D920:01C948E6] --_454227be-3544-48e3-9512-edf27c220521_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope all the interest in a new webb site does not diminish the capability= and opportunity for help during construction. I am still building. Still= trying to match a MKII tail to a 1993 vintage fuselage. Still trying to ma= ke sense of the original plans and two updates. =20 Perhaps there IS a need to inventory the interests of those active on this = site. I am not looking to join a new site. Tom Brand To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun=2C 16 Nov 2008 18:01:16 -0500 From: rpharis@teamimc.com Subject: [LML] Re: LML Do we=20 have a log in which we can state and update percent completion=2C start dat= e and=20 target first flight date=2C so we can track who is building and who is=20 flying? =20 Rod -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Earl=20 Schroeder Sent: Saturday=2C November 15=2C 2008 7:07 AM To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: LML =20 Bryan=2C Angier=2C Marv=2C I doubt if many are actually building kits=20 today. Having purchased my kit in 1987 and flying today=2C I still read= =20 each post and learn from time to time. I know of no Lancair builders=20 within several hundred miles and I am the only owner in this area also. = =20 There are several RV kits in progress and several flying. I would be=20 interested in how often a reply it sent to a builder privately. I know I= =20 send most privately to avoid the wrath of some here on LML. As age=20 increases=2C my skin thins... Marv=2C I really don't mind seeing the many=20 discussion paths. My delete key works for me. I do appreciate you=20 for taking the time to support this forum! Earl =20 =20 =20 From: Bryan Wullner=20 To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net Sent:=20 Saturday=2C November 15=2C 2008 6:36:20 AM Subject: [LML] Re:=20 LML Angier=2C =20 I agree. It seems like there isn't much happening on the LML as far=20 build discussions. You can still get answers to some but really seems=20 like not much activity for=2C what I thought to be a fairly large amount = of=20 aircraft kits out there.=20 Anyone know how many Lancair kits have been sold since the=20 inception?=20 Lancair builders and owners are either:=20 1. Going extinct or:=20 2. People who fly and build Lancairs don't care to have any web presence.= =20 Which will eventually lead Lancair to item 1 in this age.. Soon its going to be a world where experiment airplane is defined as an=20 RV. Thats my Wahhh wahhh wahh viewpoint of the day. Bryan =20 =20 =20 On Fri=2C Nov 14=2C 2008 at 4:08 PM=2C wrote: =20 Posted=20 for "Greenbacks=2C UnLtd." : I=20 may be confused about the original purpose and intent of LML=20 but then=20 again=2C I'm confused by many things of=20 late. As I recall=2C LML came into existence in order to be a sort=20 of clearinghouse=20 for builders to share building tips=2C=20 techniques=2C problem solving=2C etc... and=20 as an=20 extension/supplement to factory=20 technical support. =20 LML seems to me to be=20 drifting wide of this mark and in danger of losing its=20 =20 relevance=2C to me anyway. Perhaps I'm one of only a few still=20 building and as=20 such=2C recent posts about FAA crud are of=20 little importance to me. =20 Angier=20 Ames N4ZQ N3ZQ [Good points=2C Angier.... I've=20 always tried to keep a very light hand on the LML=2C allowing the commu= nity to=20 pretty much police itself. As a more-or-less open venue=2C its focus=20 tends to shift with the times. It was a much different community back= =20 when I started the LML=2C one that was pretty much dominated by=20 builders. Over the years much of that building has resulted in=20 completed aircraft and a change of focus for those folks who have moved= from=20 building to flying and maintaining. This doesn't mean that we still=20 don't have meaningful discussions about the former=2C just that they te= nd to=20 be fewer and further between. That being said=2C if you (and I mean th= at=20 collectively here) would prefer that I start filtering the more "periph= eral"=20 discussions from the LML=2C I'd be happy to do so. My concern is mostl= y=20 about where to draw the line. Let me think about it over the weekend= =2C=20 and if anyone else would like to chime in with suggestions or solutions= to=20 perceived problems=2C please feel free to contact me offline at my priv= ate=20 email address=2C just so we don't clog the LML with a bunch of manageme= nt=20 issues that are better left in the back room. Thanks to everyone for=20 your continued support and participation... without you the LML would b= e an=20 empty email box. ] -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_fast= er_112008= --_454227be-3544-48e3-9512-edf27c220521_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope all the interest in a new webb site does not diminish the capability= and opportunity for help during construction. =3B I am still building.=  =3B Still trying to match a MKII tail to a 1993 vintage fuselage. Stil= l trying to make sense of =3B the original plans and two updates. = =3B

Perhaps there IS a need to inventory the interests of those act= ive on this site. =3B I am not looking to join a new site.

= Tom Brand


=

To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Sun=2C 1= 6 Nov 2008 18:01:16 -0500
From: rpharis@teamimc.com
Subject: [LML] Re= : LML

Do we=20 have a log in which we can state and update percent completion=2C start dat= e and=20 target first flight date=2C so we =3Bcan track =3Bwho is building a= nd who is=20 flying?
 =3B
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: Lancai= r Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Earl=20 Schroeder
Sent: Saturday=2C November 15=2C 2008 7:07 AM
T= o:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: LML
Bryan=2C Angier=2C Marv=2C
I doubt if many are actually building = kits=20 today. =3B Having purchased my kit in 1987 and flying today=2C I stil= l read=20 each post and learn from time to time. =3B I know of no Lancair build= ers=20 within several hundred miles and I am the only owner in this area also.&n= bsp=3B=20 There are several RV kits in progress and several flying.

I would = be=20 interested in how often a reply it sent to a builder privately. =3B I= know I=20 send most privately to avoid the wrath of some here on LML. =3B As ag= e=20 increases=2C my skin thins...

Marv=2C I really don't mind seeing t= he many=20 discussion paths. =3B My delete key works for me. =3B I do apprec= iate you=20 for taking the time to support this forum! =3B Earl

From: Bryan Wullner=20 <=3Bvonjet@gmail.com>=3B
T= o:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Sent:=20 Saturday=2C November 15=2C 2008 6:36:20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re:=20 LML

Angier=2C

I agree.  =3BIt seems like there isn't much happening on the LML= as far=20 build discussions.  =3BYou can still get answers to some but really s= eems=20 like not much activity for=2C what I thought to be a fairly large amount = of=20 aircraft kits out there. =3B
Anyone know how many Lancair kits have been sold since the=20 inception? =3B
Lancair builders and owners are either: =3B
1. Going extinct or: =3B
2. People who fly and build Lancairs don't care to have any web pres= ence.=20 Which will eventually lead Lancair to item 1 in this age..
Soon its going to be a world where experiment airplane is defined as= an=20 RV.
Thats my Wahhh wahhh wahh viewpoint of the day.
Bryan
 =3B =3B



On Fri=2C Nov 14=2C 2008 at 4:08 PM=2C <=3Bma= rv@lancair.net>=3B wrote:
Posted=20 for "Greenbacks=2C UnLtd." <=3BN4ZQ@comcast.net>=3B:

 =3BI=20 may be confused about the original purpose and intent of LML=20 but =3B =3Bthen
again=2C I'm confused by many things of=20 late.
 =3BAs I recall=2C LML came into existence in order to be = a sort=20 of =3B =3Bclearinghouse
for builders to share building tips= =2C=20 techniques=2C problem =3B =3Bsolving=2C etc... and
as an=20 extension/supplement to factory=20 technical =3B =3Bsupport.
 =3B
 =3BLML seems to m= e to be=20 drifting wide of this mark and in danger of =3B =3Blosing its=20
relevance=2C to me anyway. Perhaps I'm one of only a few =3B&nb= sp=3Bstill=20 building and as
such=2C recent posts about FAA crud are of=20 little =3B =3Bimportance to me.
 =3B
 =3BAngier=20 Ames
 =3BN4ZQ
 =3BN3ZQ


[Good points=2C Angier.= ... I've=20 always tried to keep a very light hand on the LML=2C allowing the commu= nity to=20 pretty much police itself. =3B As a more-or-less open venue=2C its = focus=20 tends to shift with the times. =3B It was a much different communit= y back=20 when I started the LML=2C one that was pretty much dominated by=20 builders. =3B Over the years much of that building has resulted in= =20 completed aircraft and a change of focus for those folks who have moved= from=20 building to flying and maintaining. =3B This doesn't mean that we s= till=20 don't have meaningful discussions about the former=2C just that they te= nd to=20 be fewer and further between. =3B That being said=2C if you (and I = mean that=20 collectively here) would prefer that I start filtering the more "periph= eral"=20 discussions from the LML=2C I'd be happy to do so. =3B My concern i= s mostly=20 about where to draw the line. =3B Let me think about it over the we= ekend=2C=20 and if anyone else would like to chime in with suggestions or solutions= to=20 perceived problems=2C please feel free to contact me offline at my priv= ate=20 email address=2C just so we don't clog the LML with a bunch of manageme= nt=20 issues that are better left in the back room. =3B Thanks to everyon= e for=20 your continued support and participation... without you the LML would b= e an=20 empty email box. =3B <=3BMarv>=3B =3B =3B ]


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