X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:06:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.88] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with SMTP id 3301543 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:59:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 2379 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2008 14:59:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=I8K5LRCgj+3TxOLCekDlUXZeP+JkToebWDyqLo3i/VwN0pPr9NJ2YFhw5uUiE7Eyn4HfiWTFXvS9R3hG8HfPRKKvTErTqFf7tjkTdsJoZlxwt5mPLuEvGdAU1zS7a2/FjjkB5C9h1LxJhT/bIh6A//pPDXjPd9zrJzjly4jy4Ss=; X-YMail-OSG: KeXsYswVM1mk211ddev5kKXbiKIfNa8_Y7yfX_mhYqPh5oVtGJfXNPdrc.MCd.DfN.ih3Qx.j6Agj9T1o8fQEav7uXvm30vhSn5HpYd.ILxIa4kTOJKsvN7jOPhC_6MIEoYY5KsyzgtKa5uCKU8Rw3kpETu9AIU15jdomjDZpeb1Cg-- Received: from [75.16.244.55] by web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:59:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 X-Original-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:59:10 -0800 (PST) From: Earl Schroeder Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LML X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2136034386-1226761150=:2364" X-Original-Message-ID: <867541.2364.qm@web82707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-2136034386-1226761150=:2364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bryan, Angier, Marv, I doubt if many are actually building kits today. Having purchased my kit in 1987 and flying today, I still read each post and learn from time to time. I know of no Lancair builders within several hundred miles and I am the only owner in this area also. There are several RV kits in progress and several flying. I would be interested in how often a reply it sent to a builder privately. I know I send most privately to avoid the wrath of some here on LML. As age increases, my skin thins... Marv, I really don't mind seeing the many discussion paths. My delete key works for me. I do appreciate you for taking the time to support this forum! Earl ________________________________ From: Bryan Wullner To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:36:20 AM Subject: [LML] Re: LML Angier, I agree. It seems like there isn't much happening on the LML as far build discussions. You can still get answers to some but really seems like not much activity for, what I thought to be a fairly large amount of aircraft kits out there. Anyone know how many Lancair kits have been sold since the inception? Lancair builders and owners are either: 1. Going extinct or: 2. People who fly and build Lancairs don't care to have any web presence. Which will eventually lead Lancair to item 1 in this age.. Soon its going to be a world where experiment airplane is defined as an RV. Thats my Wahhh wahhh wahh viewpoint of the day. Bryan On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM, wrote: Posted for "Greenbacks, UnLtd." : I may be confused about the original purpose and intent of LML but then again, I'm confused by many things of late. As I recall, LML came into existence in order to be a sort of clearinghouse for builders to share building tips, techniques, problem solving, etc... and as an extension/supplement to factory technical support. LML seems to me to be drifting wide of this mark and in danger of losing its relevance, to me anyway. Perhaps I'm one of only a few still building and as such, recent posts about FAA crud are of little importance to me. Angier Ames N4ZQ N3ZQ [Good points, Angier.... I've always tried to keep a very light hand on the LML, allowing the community to pretty much police itself. As a more-or-less open venue, its focus tends to shift with the times. It was a much different community back when I started the LML, one that was pretty much dominated by builders. Over the years much of that building has resulted in completed aircraft and a change of focus for those folks who have moved from building to flying and maintaining. This doesn't mean that we still don't have meaningful discussions about the former, just that they tend to be fewer and further between. That being said, if you (and I mean that collectively here) would prefer that I start filtering the more "peripheral" discussions from the LML, I'd be happy to do so. My concern is mostly about where to draw the line. Let me think about it over the weekend, and if anyone else would like to chime in with suggestions or solutions to perceived problems, please feel free to contact me offline at my private email address, just so we don't clog the LML with a bunch of management issues that are better left in the back room. Thanks to everyone for your continued support and participation... without you the LML would be an empty email box. ] -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --0-2136034386-1226761150=:2364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Bryan, Angier, Marv,
I doubt if many are actually building kits today.  Having purchased my kit in 1987 and flying today, I still read each post and learn from time to time.  I know of no Lancair builders within several hundred miles and I am the only owner in this area also.  There are several RV kits in progress and several flying.

I would be interested in how often a reply it sent to a builder privately.  I know I send most privately to avoid the wrath of some here on LML.  As age increases, my skin thins...

Marv, I really don't mind seeing the many discussion paths.  My delete key works for me.  I do appreciate you for taking the time to support this forum!  Earl

From: Bryan Wullner <vonjet@gmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:36:20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: LML

Angier,

I agree.  It seems like there isn't much happening on the LML as far build discussions.  You can still get answers to some but really seems like not much activity for, what I thought to be a fairly large amount of aircraft kits out there. 
Anyone know how many Lancair kits have been sold since the inception? 
Lancair builders and owners are either: 
1. Going extinct or: 
2. People who fly and build Lancairs don't care to have any web presence. Which will eventually lead Lancair to item 1 in this age..
Soon its going to be a world where experiment airplane is defined as an RV.
Thats my Wahhh wahhh wahh viewpoint of the day.
Bryan
  



On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM, <marv@lancair.net> wrote:
Posted for "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@comcast.net>:

 I may be confused about the original purpose and intent of LML but  then
again, I'm confused by many things of late.
 As I recall, LML came into existence in order to be a sort of  clearinghouse
for builders to share building tips, techniques, problem  solving, etc... and
as an extension/supplement to factory technical  support.
 
 LML seems to me to be drifting wide of this mark and in danger of  losing its
relevance, to me anyway. Perhaps I'm one of only a few  still building and as
such, recent posts about FAA crud are of little  importance to me.
 
 Angier Ames
 N4ZQ
 N3ZQ


[Good points, Angier.... I've always tried to keep a very light hand on the LML, allowing the community to pretty much police itself.  As a more-or-less open venue, its focus tends to shift with the times.  It was a much different community back when I started the LML, one that was pretty much dominated by builders.  Over the years much of that building has resulted in completed aircraft and a change of focus for those folks who have moved from building to flying and maintaining.  This doesn't mean that we still don't have meaningful discussions about the former, just that they tend to be fewer and further between.  That being said, if you (and I mean that collectively here) would prefer that I start filtering the more "peripheral" discussions from the LML, I'd be happy to do so.  My concern is mostly about where to draw the line.  Let me think about it over the weekend, and if anyone else would like to chime in with suggestions or solutions to perceived problems, please feel free to contact me offline at my private email address, just so we don't clog the LML with a bunch of management issues that are better left in the back room.  Thanks to everyone for your continued support and participation... without you the LML would be an empty email box.  <Marv>   ]

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