X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:03:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.143.99] (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.8) with ESMTP id 3216849 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:58:52 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id q.c72.3f274975 (37139) for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA031-5c4648f87df23a1; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:58:47 -0400 Received: from webmail-md02 (webmail-md02.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.140]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r3.13) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA014-5c4648f87df23a1; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:58:42 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] 4P Gear Box questions X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:58:43 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 63.88.81.130 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAFE66D60C44FF_BCC_583C_webmail-md02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39155-STANDARD Received: from 63.88.81.130 by webmail-md02.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.140) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:58:43 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CAFE66D548C2E3-BCC-2BDE@webmail-md02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CAFE66D60C44FF_BCC_583C_webmail-md02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ralf, The hard line in the gear leg is absoluetly necessary. The plastic line will= fail with use. There is a Service Bulletin on this. Jeff got two questions: I got flexible plastic break lines into my gear leg. I th= ought this would be ok if I cover them with a clear plastic hose for protect= ion (I used this also around my rudder pedals) =E2=80=93 On pictures of newe= r airplanes I saw that a hard pipe is now used to go into the gear leg =E2= =80=93 I this necessary?=20 =C2=A0 -----Original Message----- From: bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 1:25 am Subject: [LML] 4P Gear Box questions Dear subscribers, =C2=A0 Please find attached pictures of my home made gear box. I replaced the four=20= corner brackets with a plate with cut outs. I used 2024-1 Aluminum for the g= ear box with the T3 heat treat procedure after bending the parts and 2024 T3= Aluminum for the top. I am going to put covers with a flat rubber seal on t= op of the cut outs and use them as access panels. =C2=A0 I got two questions: I got flexible plastic break lines into my gear leg. I=20= thought this would be ok if I cover them with a clear plastic hose for prote= ction (I used this also around my rudder pedals) =E2=80=93 On pictures of ne= wer airplanes I saw that a hard pipe is now used to go into the gear leg=20= =E2=80=93 I this necessary?=20 =C2=A0 Second question: the area where the wing bolts onto the gearbox. I my airpla= ne they used a cover tha t was siliconed to the gearbox, the side wall and the floor of the cabin to=20= keep the cabin pressure inside. This gets pretty messy after you remove it t= he second time. I was thinking to glass that cover in place and cut a remova= ble access panel in there =E2=80=93 are you aware of any other solutions to=20= get access to the wing bolts without creating all this silicone mess. =C2=A0 Soon I will have some pictures of my reworked door =E2=80=93 thanks for all=20= the help and advice I got on this. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ralf Bronnenmeier 1070 Navajo Drive Bluffton, OH 45817 Phone: (419) 369 12 33 Fax:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (419) 369 33 32 E-mail: bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com =C2=A0 -- or archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html [Image Removed]=20 [Image Removed]=20 [Image Removed]=20 ----------MB_8CAFE66D60C44FF_BCC_583C_webmail-md02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Ralf,

The hard line in the gear leg is absoluetly necessary. The plastic line will= fail with use. There is a Service Bulletin on this.

Jeff
got two questions: I got flexible plastic break l= ines into my gear leg. I thought this would be ok if I cover them with a cle= ar plastic hose for protection (I used this also around my rudder pedals)=20= =E2=80=93 On pictures of newer airplanes I saw that a hard pipe is now used=20= to go into the gear leg =E2=80=93 I this necessary?
 



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From: bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 1:25 am
Subject: [LML] 4P Gear Box questions

Dear subscribers,
 
Please find attached pictures of my home made gea= r box. I replaced the four corner brackets with a plate with cut outs. I use= d 2024-1 Aluminum for the gear box with the T3 heat treat procedure after be= nding the parts and 2024 T3 Aluminum for the top. I am going to put covers w= ith a flat rubber seal on top of the cut outs and use them as access panels.=
 
I got two questions: I got flexible plastic break= lines into my gear leg. I thought this would be ok if I cover them with a c= lear plastic hose for protection (I used this also around my rudder pedals)=20= =E2=80=93 On pictures of newer airplanes I saw that a hard20pipe is now used= to go into the gear leg =E2=80=93 I this necessary?
 
Second question: the area where the wing bolts on= to the gearbox. I my airplane they used a cover that was siliconed to the ge= arbox, the side wall and the floor of the cabin to keep the cabin pressure i= nside. This gets pretty messy after you remove it the second time. I was thi= nking to glass that cover in place and cut a removable access panel in there= =E2=80=93 are you aware of any other solutions to get access to the wing bo= lts without creating all this silicone mess.
 
Soon I will have some pictures of my reworked doo= r =E2=80=93 thanks for all the help and advice I got on this.<= /div>
 
 
Ralf Bronnenmeier
1070 Navajo Drive
Bluffton, OH 45817
Phone: (419) 369 12 33
Fax:     (419) 369 33 32
 

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