X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:22:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.7) with ESMTP id 3112088 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:04:14 -0400 Received: from RMiller904@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id q.d04.3e523f62 (29672) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: RMiller904@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:04:12 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy video X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1220436252" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-Spam-Flag:NO -------------------------------1220436252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since you always have to make stupid comments when it comes to me, I would like to put my students record of accidents up against yours. It would be nice if the Lancair instructors would just help the students fly there planes and not tell them how to run there lives. Ron _www.ronsflying.com_ (http://www.ronsflying.com/) In a message dated 9/2/2008 11:05:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes: Ron, I see you are well read, as well. How about checking out _http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001212X18687&ntsbno=ATL99LA083&akey=1_ (http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001212X18687&ntsbno=ATL99LA083&akey=1) This accident was a high speed low altitude pass with a bad barrel roll at the end. The aircraft was "Dreamcatcher", an award winning Lancair seen at Oshkosh in the 90's. The pilot bought the aircraft from the builder, took a very short aerobatic course of instruction and then performed an impromptu airshow for his friends--funeral five days later. If you are not concerned about how other's fly you should NOT be a CFI. Jeff CFI I don't know of any accidents doing aerobatics so far. Ron -----Original Message----- From: RMiller904@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 6:49 am Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy video I think people should worry about how they can fly not how others fly there planes. I watched the you tube and it was very mild, how can anyone even find anything wrong with that? Worry more about the so called experts that fly IFR solid with the little planes. The Lancair is not hard to fly, it flys great and is a safe plane, also some of them are good for mild aerobatics, I don't know of any accidents doing aerobatics so far. Ron _www.ronsflying.com_ (http://www.ronsflying.com/) In a message dated 8/29/2008 7:11:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _vtailjeff@aol.com_ (mailto:vtailjeff@aol.com) writes: John, Bryan & other like minded individuals, In case you have been living on another planet these last few months you may not be aware of the crisis our deceased Lancair brethren have created. 1. If you own a Lancair IV series aircraft you have been informed by AIG that they will not renew your insurance policy due to the Lancair losses this past year (and not all Lancair losses are IV's). Although I was paying over $7000/ year for hull and liability-- I may not be able to get it at all. Thank you very much. 2. The FAA is seriously considering making mandatory initial training by an approved CFI prior to acting as PIC. Thank you very, very much. These aircraft are not toys. Please fly responsibly. We do not need any more accidents. If you post your stuff on youtube.com--do not be shocked that someone thinks negatively of you actions. Best Regards, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: _marv@lancair.net_ (mailto:marv@lancair.net) To: _lml@lancaironline.net_ (mailto:lml@lancaironline.net) Sent: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 1:53 pm Subject: [LML] Legacy video Posted for "Jon Socolof" <_jsocolof@ershire.com_ (mailto:jsocolof@ershire.com) >: Hi, I've never posted on the LML before but I'd like to respond to those unhappy with the Legacy videos. I posted a video of my Legacy _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htM9K3BwXbU_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htM9K3BwXbU) and what you see is a "low approach" directly over the runway a maneuver that is perfectly legal and safe. Everybody I have met that has seen the video has enjoyed it. I'm sorry that some feel it demonstrates reckless behavior, I simply disagree. I built my airplane to enjoy and I'm proud of the video we shot. For those that may be unhappy with my video I'd rather you just appreciate it for what it is and go on your way without comment. 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Since you always have to make stupid comments when it comes to me, I wo= uld=20 like to put my students record of accidents up against yours. It would be ni= ce=20 if the Lancair instructors would just help the students fly there planes and= not=20 tell them how to run there lives.     Ron
 
www.ronsflying.com
 =20
 
In a message dated 9/2/2008 11:05:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 vtailjeff@aol.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Ron,

I see you are wel= l=20 read, as well. How about checking out http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=3D20001212= X18687&ntsbno=3DATL99LA083&akey=3D1 =20 This accident was a high speed low altitude pass with a bad barrel roll at= the=20 end. The aircraft was "Dreamcatcher", an award winning Lancair seen at Osh= kosh=20 in the 90's. The pilot bought the aircraft from the builder, took a v= ery=20 short aerobatic course of instruction and then performed an impromptu airs= how=20 for his friends--funeral five days later.

If you are not concerned= =20 about how other's fly you should NOT be a CFI.

Jeff
CFI
I don= 't=20 know of any accidents doing aerobatics so far. =20 Ron



-----Original Message-----
From:=20 RMiller904@aol.com
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2008=20= 6:49=20 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy video

I think people should worry about how they can fly not how others fly= =20 there planes. I watched the you tube and it was very mild, how can anyone=20= even=20 find anything wrong with that? Worry more about the so called experts that= fly=20 IFR solid with the little planes. The Lancair is not hard to fly, it flys=20 great and is a safe plane, also some of them are good for mild aerobatics,= I=20 don't know of any accidents doing aerobatics so far.  Ron
 
www.ronsflying.com
 =20
 
In a message dated 8/29/2008 7:11:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vtailjeff@aol.com writes:
John,=20 Bryan & other like minded individuals,

In case you have been=20 living on another planet these last few months you may not be aware of t= he=20 crisis our deceased Lancair brethren have created.

1. If you own= a=20 Lancair IV series aircraft you have been informed by AIG that they will=20= not=20 renew your insurance policy due to the Lancair losses this past year (an= d=20 not all Lancair losses are IV's). Although I was paying over $7000/ year= for=20 hull and liability-- I may not be able to get it at all. Thank you very=20 much. 

2. The FAA is seriously considering making manda= tory=20 initial training by an approved CFI prior to acting as PIC. Thank you ve= ry,=20 very much.

These aircraft are not toys. Please fly responsib= ly.=20 We do not need any more accidents. If you post your stuff on youtube.com= --do=20 not be shocked that someone thinks negatively of you actions.=20


Best Regards,

Jeff


-----Original=20 Message-----
From: marv@lancair.net
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent:= Thu,=20 28 Aug 2008 1:53 pm
Subject: [LML] Legacy video

Posted for "Jon Socolof"= =20 <jsocolof@ershire.com>:
 Hi,=20
 
 
 
 I've never posted on the LML bef= ore=20 but I'd like to respond to those unhappy
 with the Legacy videos= .=20
 
 
 
 I posted a video of my Legacy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhtM9K3BwXbU=20 and
 what you see is a "low approach" directly over the runway a= =20 maneuver that is
 perfectly legal and safe. Everybody I have met= =20 that has seen the video has
 enjoyed it.  I'm sorry th= at=20 some feel it demonstrates reckless behavior, I
 simply disagree.= I=20 built my airplane to enjoy and I'm proud of the video=20 we
 shot.  For those that may be unhappy with my video= I'd=20 rather you just
 appreciate it for what it is and go on your way= =20 without comment.
 
 
 
 Jon=20 Socolof
 
 Legacy 212XP
 
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