X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [65.121.222.243] (HELO agcsrvr.AGCEngineering.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3102289 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:11:22 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.121.222.243; envelope-from=JohnB@agcheattransfer.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Training (Engine Out Practice) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-Original-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:10:43 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <21105FE689C16E45BFCD702D4D921DCA06DAC0@agcsrvr.AGCEngineering.com> In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Training (Engine Out Practice) thread-index: AckLYAb0HcKBVVubTfa1zLcTk2sL+QAGzPtA References: From: "John C. Bohn" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Bill, You said "My most consistent problem has been the urge to land at the beginning of the runway instead of a third or so down, and then running out of energy." =20 Until you get completely comfortable with your plane's glide (and hopefully have a runway with over 3000') I was once instructed to aim for the middle of the runway in an emergency.....this has worked well= as I can normally loose airspeed but never gain "energy"....just my thoughts. John C. Bohn- Lancair 320-800 hrs, lancair 4P-200 hrs. Direct (Cell)- 503-887-2933 Western Factory- 503-774-7342 Eastern Factory- 703-257-1660 =20 See us on the Web at www.AGCHeattransfer.com -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Kennedy Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:52 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Training (Engine Out Practice) There's another fly in the ointment here. I've had very good luck=20 with my practice engine out work (fixed pitch prop, engine in idle),=20 but not perfect. I've always gotten to a landable spot, but several=20 times I've blown the final pattern and had to add power to make a=20 landing. Every case is a little different: different landing surface=20 length; different winds; different starting altitude. It's obvious to=20 me that practice is more of a factor than knowing precisely what your=20 glide ratio is. I can tell straight away, without involving too many=20 brain cells, whether my plane is going to reach a given spot. I do=20 the math, just to add confidence, but if I set speed and see where=20 the plane is going always works. My most consistant problem has been=20 the urge to land at the beginning of the runway instead of a third or=20 so down, and then running out of energy. Just my thoughts -- hope it adds to the discussion. Bill Kennedy N42BK -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html