X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:52:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com ([208.47.184.3] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3101510 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:33:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.47.184.3; envelope-from=liegner@embarqmail.com X-Original-Return-Path: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=30vL5gnL1Y8A:10 a=vOf2QIqDhnMA:10 a=bKLWKdiulsjs8VTpqAsA:9 a=JXtEOn2VY3ncMnLJHUDiDYeCcS8A:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=liegner@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [76.6.57.200] ([76.6.57.200:15287] helo=[10.0.1.29]) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.33 r(25932/25934)) with ESMTPA id A4/22-12402-19EA9B84; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:33:22 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: liegner@embarqmail.com@pop.embarqmail.com X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:24:33 -0400 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net From: Bill Kennedy (by way of Jeffrey Liegner, MD) Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Training (Engine Out Practice) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" There's another fly in the ointment here. I've had very good luck with my practice engine out work (fixed pitch prop, engine in idle), but not perfect. I've always gotten to a landable spot, but several times I've blown the final pattern and had to add power to make a landing. Every case is a little different: different landing surface length; different winds; different starting altitude. It's obvious to me that practice is more of a factor than knowing precisely what your glide ratio is. I can tell straight away, without involving too many brain cells, whether my plane is going to reach a given spot. I do the math, just to add confidence, but if I set speed and see where the plane is going always works. My most consistant problem has been the urge to land at the beginning of the runway instead of a third or so down, and then running out of energy. Just my thoughts -- hope it adds to the discussion. Bill Kennedy N42BK