X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:15:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta15.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.77] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3099455 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:10:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.77; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from [75.83.27.99] by mta15.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20080829110742.OCBX2677.mta15.adelphia.net@[75.83.27.99]> for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:07:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Gary Casey Subject: Turn base to final X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:09:20 -0700 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) There was an interesting comment posted the other day that essentially said that a turn to final won't result in an accelerated stall because the aircraft is descending and therefore has a load factor of less than 1 G. Of course, as long as the aircraft isn't accelerating vertically the situation is the same as for level flight - the load factor will be greater than 1 G. But what if one did decide to turn the 90-degree turn while keeping the load factor at 1 G? Certainly any turn at any bank angle can be made at 1 G as long as the aircraft is allowed to accelerate downward. How much, I asked, so I went to my trusty spreadsheet and did some calculations. If you turn 90 degrees at a bank angle of 15 degrees (load factor of 1.0 instead of the normal 1.04) and an airspeed of about 90 knots you will exit the turn at a vertical descent rate of 1,000 ft/min MORE than when you entered. Do it at a bank angle of 30 degrees and the number is about 2,000 ft/min. at first it seemed to me that it is unlikely that doing this type of thing makes sense, although I suppose one could go from a base leg at level flight and use the turn to make the transition to descending flight. A 1,000 to 2,000 ft/min descent rate isn't far off for a normal final approach, so maybe it would be a reasonable thing to do as normal practice. Just a thought. Gary Casey ES #157