X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:37:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3095038 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:53:52 -0400 Received: from PTACKABURY@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r10.8.) id q.c2c.413eb656 (48552) for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:53:45 -0400 (EDT) From: PTACKABURY@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:53:55 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: ....thoughts on accidents "Flying slow is not for the uninforme... X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1219784035" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1219784035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lynn: Yo big guy, my post re: stalls had more to do with understanding than practicing. To wit: during that 40 hours of envelop expansion we are all obligated to accomplish before being turned lose on the rest of the world of things aviation, we should understand the high speed end to insure normal controllability, stability and structural integrity (most do not redefine Vne annually at 50 feet agl in northern Nevada) and the low speed end to understand what our one off personally manufactured time machine will do when that student in a 150 takes the runway unannounced while we are on short final and we maneuver to avoid creating a fireball with our name on it. If all is not to your liking at either extreme of the operating envelop, then you must fix it, learn to compensate for it, or redefine it. I also tried to suggest stall strips are not the all singing answer some would suggest, nor are a collection of AOA devices, or training that involves flying around with a "certified" instructor at 90kias. I am suggesting that understanding the flight characteristics of YOUR personal machine with all its greatness and warts is a good use of your test time and training. Of course accomplishing same within safe margins of altitude, attitude and oversight should go without saying. See you in RNO paul In a message dated 8/26/2008 1:30:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, farnsworth @charter.net writes: I can fly as slow as the next guy, but why. What is your definition of slow flying? 1 knot above stalling AOA, 2knots or maybe 10 knots? What? **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) -------------------------------1219784035 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lynn:  Yo big guy, my post re: stalls had more to do with=20 understanding than practicing.  To wit: during that 40 hours of envelop= =20 expansion we are all obligated to accomplish before being turned lose on the= =20 rest of the world of things aviation, we should understand the high speed en= d to=20 insure normal controllability, stability and structural integrity (most= do=20 not redefine Vne annually at 50 feet agl in northern Nevada) and the low spe= ed=20 end to understand what our one off personally manufactured time machine will= do=20 when that student in a 150 takes the runway unannounced while we are on shor= t=20 final and we maneuver to avoid creating a fireball with our name on it. = ; If=20 all is not to your liking at either extreme of the operating envelop, then y= ou=20 must fix it, learn to compensate for it, or redefine it.  I also tried=20= to=20 suggest stall strips are not the all singing answer some would suggest, nor=20= are=20 a collection of AOA devices, or training that involves flying around with a=20 "certified" instructor at 90kias.  I am suggesting that understanding t= he=20 flight characteristics of YOUR personal machine with all its greatness=20= and=20 warts is a good use of your test time and training.  Of course=20 accomplishing same within safe margins of altitude, attitude and oversight=20 should go without saying.
See you in RNO
paul
 
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