X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:31:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.234] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3064837 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:32:29 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.234; envelope-from=akadamson@gmail.com Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so25820wxc.25 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:sender; b=hNrN0hBLyI5mfCJO6Gs3frTZbPwHAJLMiRUNPsUQisSI6sRShndPAIBzHmbxf5Etog JPNZCFS5r6W9kE6TwpjmUzwlghyDxlrCoyT31TLN8TWkpBOMW0N6xxOTcG4B2REZWARz cSczrW8v9hvDJEZpugRJHjPXFtlaBjxqiZwsM= Received: by 10.70.26.4 with SMTP id 4mr3502720wxz.19.1218061910689; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from aadamsonPC ( [24.98.75.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i35sm7832155wxd.18.2008.08.06.15.31.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alan Adamson" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident. X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:31:40 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0193_01C8F7F2.AC02CC70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 thread-index: Acj3+7SqL9RRWcWQRuGWZhIlFEuGLAAGGGEQ X-Original-Sender: Alan Adamson This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0193_01C8F7F2.AC02CC70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Instead of "pull up", which is what a TAWS system would tell you and "Terrain, terrain"... And AOA Pro says "Angle, angle, Push!"... Alan _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of marv@lancair.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:33 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Clearing up some information about the Legacy accident. Posted for "farnsworth" : Ron, Why would you want to "pull up" and increase the angle of attack when you are already close to the stalling AOA? Lynn Farnsworth """" Yes, this aircraft had the Pro AOA. If you don't know how, find someone who knows how. If it is set properly, you will hear a "pull up" warning just about the time you touch down. """" Good point. I'm sure Ron mis-spoke. WIth the AOA properly calibrated you get an aural stall warning when the AOA is 15% above the stall... the warning doesn't tell you to "pull up".... just the opposite. The lady says "Angle, Angle, PUSH" to let you know that you need to lower the nose and decrease the angle of attack. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0193_01C8F7F2.AC02CC70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Instead of "pull up", which is what a TAWS = system would=20 tell you and "Terrain, terrain"... And AOA Pro says "Angle, angle,=20 Push!"...
 
Alan


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Subject: [LML] Re: = Clearing up=20 some information about the Legacy accident.

Posted for "farnsworth"=20 <farnsworth@charter.net>:

 
 
 Ron,
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 Why=20 would you want to "pull up" and increase the angle of attack when=20 you
 are already close to the stalling=20 AOA?
 
 
 
 Lynn=20 Farnsworth
 
 """"
 Yes, this aircraft had the = Pro AOA.=20 If you don't know how, find someone who
 knows = how.  If it is=20 set properly, you will hear a "pull up" warning just
 about the = time you=20 touch down.  
""""


Good point.  I'm sure = Ron=20 mis-spoke.  WIth the AOA properly calibrated you get an aural stall = warning=20 when the AOA is 15% above the stall... the warning doesn't tell you to = "pull=20 up".... just the opposite. The lady says "Angle, Angle, PUSH" to let you = know=20 that you need to lower the nose and decrease the angle of=20 attack.    <Marv>

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