X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:33:03 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3063391 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:10:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.84; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from BLU130-DS4 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:10:12 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [68.186.114.52] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: Finishing Costs X-Original-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:10:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0386_01C8F72E.E1340C20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.60.0053.2200 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:10:09 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2008 02:10:12.0474 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F1D2DA0:01C8F769] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0386_01C8F72E.E1340C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another data point for you. All of the body work was completed and my plane was primed and sanded to = 320 grit paper, so it was paint ready when I delivered it to the = aircraft painters paint booth hanger. =20 The two of us (painter and I) worked together six days a week for five = weeks to do the masking, base coat/clear coat, sanding and buffing. = Figure it up and that is about 420 man hours plus materials. There was approximately $1,800 in materials (paint, clear, thinners, = paper, sand paper, tape, blades, masks, polishing pads, polishing = compounds, etc.). These are 1999 costs. The painters labor totaled about $6,200, so the overall total was about = $8,000 not including my 210 hours of labor. Again, 1999 numbers. I got off at a very reasonable total expense because I (slave labor) did = all the body work and paint prep prior to taking the plane to the = painter. It all turned out ok. The plane was awarded two grand = champions.=20 The greatest expense is in the body prep if you have the painter do it, = and the paint will only be as good as what is under it. Painters = typically don't like to do body work. They would rather paint. =20 As said before by others and myself; in the end, while parked on display = or otherwise, all that will be seen is the paint, interior, and panel. = All of the best workmanship (and the worst) will not be visible. Go the = extra mile ($) and make the finish nice. At 8,000 feet and 200+ MPH they all look the same. "The first thing noticed and last thing remembered is the finish" (Don = Barnes) Gary Edwards LNC2 ------=_NextPart_000_0386_01C8F72E.E1340C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Another data point for you.

All of the body work was completed and my plane was primed and = sanded=20 to 320 grit paper, so it was paint ready when I delivered it to the = aircraft painters paint booth hanger.

The two of us (painter and I) worked together six days a week = for five=20 weeks to do the masking, base coat/clear coat, sanding and = buffing. Figure=20 it up and that is about 420 man hours plus materials.

There was approximately $1,800 in materials (paint, clear, = thinners, paper,=20 sand paper, tape, blades, masks, polishing pads, polishing = compounds,=20 etc.). These are 1999 costs.

The painters labor totaled about $6,200, so the overall total was = about=20 $8,000 not including my 210 hours of labor. Again, 1999 = numbers.

I got off at a very reasonable total expense because I (slave = labor)=20 did all the body work and paint prep prior to taking the plane to the=20 painter. It all turned out ok. The plane was awarded two = grand=20 champions.

The greatest expense is in the body prep if you have the painter do = it, and=20 the paint will only be as good as what is under it. Painters=20 typically don't like to do body work. They would rather=20 paint.

As said before by others and myself; in the end, while parked = on=20 display or otherwise, all that will be seen is the paint, interior, = and=20 panel. All of the best workmanship (and the worst) will not be=20 visible. Go the extra mile ($) and make the finish nice.

At 8,000 feet and 200+ MPH they all look the same.

"The first thing noticed and last thing remembered is the=20 finish" (Don Barnes)

Gary Edwards

LNC2

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