Return-Path: Received: from mail.the-i.net ([206.136.176.3]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:49:34 -0500 Received: from pavilion (unverified [206.136.177.107]) by mail.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.2.181) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:01:48 -0600 Message-ID: <003201bf82c5$813eadc0$6bb188ce@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Subject: FAA reg's re hangars Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:58:52 -0600 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> There is, in fact, an obscure part of the FAR's that deals with hangars located on airports, and we had to go through a full-dress FAA review when we built hangars on Mustang Beach Airport (2R8) a couple of years ago. There is a formula that uses distance from any runway or taxiway to figure maximum height -- the idea is that the closer you are, the lower your roof peak has to be. They also require a certain type of red light at either end of the roof peak. These lights must be a special government design, as they cost a ridiculous amount and burn out almost immediately. The lease-back setup is pretty common, i.e., you build the hangar at your expense, get maybe a 25-year lease from the City or whoever owns the aiport, then at the end of the lease they own it. If rents are reasonable, it probably makes sense to just rent, but in cases like Austin, TX, where pilots got the big shaft in the Mueller closure and move to Bergstrom, rents are running $400 to $600 per month! I've gone through the hangar-building process twice now, the first with a steel building, the second with frame construction. We have quite a bit of added expense here to meet a minimum 120mph wind load requirement (everything here on Mustang Island is hurricane bait), but if I have to do it a third time, I'll pick the steel building every time. If your concrete work is good, the building can be up and running in one week flat. Several companies like Erect-A-Tube make nice bifold doors that are about a 2-hour job to hang (you need a crane and a welder). You can probably figure about $25K to $30K for a single, rectangular hangar including concrete, and maybe $22K to $25K per unit for T-hangars. Add on insurance, taxes, property costs, etc., and renting might look good again. The usual problem is that there aren't any rentals available. Jim Cameron (Second ES in transit from Redmond) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>