X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:51:51 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com ([208.47.184.3] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2732350 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:20:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.47.184.3; envelope-from=liegner@embarqmail.com X-Original-Return-Path: X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v0hPu2jlrKwDjGb49Z0A:9 a=7kdbLHnmbrrNxZXFamY6nxiFqpEA:4 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=liegner@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=liegner@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp08.embarq.synacor.com: 69.69.75.19 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [69.69.75.19] ([69.69.75.19:11830] helo=[172.16.1.2]) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.1.21 r(19176)) with ESMTPA id 92/B0-29421-2F2E6B74; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:19:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: liegner@embarqmail.com@pop.embarqmail.com X-Original-Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:19:30 -0500 X-Original-To: , "Lancair Mailing List" From: "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" Subject: Re: IVP De-ice (W&B Question) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Dan...what is the revised Weight and Balance (W&B) for the plane with A/C, Hot Wings with BBQ Sauce (glycol) now installed? Jeff L LIVP in New Jersey >I estimate I lost around 8 knots air speed with the ThermX and prop >heat. This is with a 4 blade prop. I figure the de-ice lets me fly >3 months of the year that I would not normally fly, so 8 knots is >not a big penalty for me to pay. I always try to leave myself an >out so if the de-ice fails. > >Yesterday while descending through a layer from 5500 ft down to 3000 >ft, ATC had me stay in this layer for about 10 minutes. Ice would >build and the heaters would cycle and the ice would shed in about 2 >seconds. Before the deice install I would have never made this trip. > >Having watched the de-ice installation, I believe the install would >be a challenge for someone who did not build the plane. > >To make room for the dedicated alternator, my batteries were moved >to behind the spar. This did not take up any useable space. > >With the engine driven air conditioner, the compressor had to be >moved about an inch to make room for the prop heat slip ring. This >meant a new compressor bracket and baffling mod. > >My wind screen glycol spray bar is about 10" long and 1/8 in >diameter and barely sticks up above the cowling. I had no room on >the firewall (FADEC) for the glycol reservoir so the 48 oz. >container and pump went in the baggage compartment. (not where I >wanted it but I had no choice.) This gives about 60, three second >bursts of fluid. If I need more than that, seeing out the front >probably won't be my greatest concern. > >Since the last part of December I have had occasion to use the >system about 4 times. One time was for about an hour. (I had an out) > >So far I am pleased with the performance of the system and the >quality of RDD's work. > >Dan Reagan >IVP 500+ hours