X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:37:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with SMTP id 2466876 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:30:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.206; envelope-from=gbfitz@swbell.net Received: (qmail 45540 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 01:29:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=swbell.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ugksvXrxqhajyvd6d2FZfRjVZOYXyQEM1mcf808nVdRPUitbju9NbYndpLtG+bQPuFweujEXpHfRXa2kALY6e1e31/x5ty1LssRZEIL5RA3+oiG2Ur1eDcQXpT4mGGhpXxLeu+0OiOV7Y5UhBKnBz05l6JlBpBvQet/rEpOWTU8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO eaglenest61) (gbfitz@swbell.net@70.130.170.133 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 01:29:33 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: njtCZQwVM1nnuK5irPnkNlla_Lv51lRrlE_IJ9D6kitzGMycozAOT51OutQOhUphzBYtUkrW8dF_tiatWnAiO7xKgcSkvoNBrpQ7 X-Original-Message-ID: <005b01c824cb$145c6660$4001a8c0@eaglenest61> From: "Gary Fitzgerald" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: [LML] Re: Permanant Header Tank X-Original-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:26:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C82498.C9201110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C82498.C9201110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian, Don't feel bad - I had to do mine 3 times. First time was just using = the forward deck before I added the header tank. Fit great (which meant = something was bound to go wrong). My header tank support obviously had = a twist, because after I bonded the header tank to the forward deck, no = amount (or combination) of heat, pulling with tie-down straps, or = cursing would get that assembly to fit. Drilled out the rivets in the = forward deck, filled in the holes, realigned everything (fit wasn't as = good as the first time, but nothing some trimming and micro wouldn't = fix). Second time, some epoxy or flox from the pad behind the hinge got = into the hinge joints, the hinge pins wouldn't pull out, and I = essentialy had a permanently bonded header tank, only that wasn't my = plan. Snapped the hinges off the forward deck, somehow separated the = upper and lower hinge halves, and tried again, this time with a = liberally lubricated hinge pin as well as duct tape protecting the hinge = joint. The point of this story is: You've got at least two more tries before = you can claim "Worst Header Tank Attachment Experience". I've been at it with this kit for (this number can't be right) just over = 4000 hours and 10 years, and I can sympathize with the desire to just = get the part finished, but everybody else has pretty much covered why = you wouldn't want to do this. If those hinges are kicking your butt, = use the screw method. I saw a beautiful LNC2 at Oshkosh a few years ago = that had a screwed-on header tank (naturally, AFTER I went through all = that with the hinges). Think about this: If you sprung a leak between = the header tank and the forward deck on the forward side of your header = tank, what would you do? Gary Fitzgerald LNC2 extra-slow build ~70% engine: TBD St. Charles, MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bryan Wullner=20 Anyone have good reasoning as to why I shouldn't permanantly bond my = header tank on? I tried the hinge method and the fit with the cowling = was terrible so I had to take the entire thing apart today. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C82498.C9201110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Brian,
 
Don't feel bad - I had to do mine 3 = times. =20 First time was just using the forward deck before I added the header = tank. =20 Fit great (which meant something was bound to go wrong).  My header = tank=20 support obviously had a twist, because after I bonded the header tank to = the=20 forward deck, no amount (or combination) of heat, pulling with tie-down = straps,=20 or cursing would get that assembly to fit.  Drilled out the rivets = in the=20 forward deck, filled in the holes, realigned everything (fit wasn't as = good as=20 the first time, but nothing some trimming and micro wouldn't fix).  = Second=20 time, some epoxy or flox from the pad behind the hinge got into the = hinge=20 joints, the hinge pins wouldn't pull out, and I essentialy had a = permanently=20 bonded header tank, only that wasn't my plan.  Snapped the hinges = off the=20 forward deck, somehow separated the upper and lower hinge halves, and = tried=20 again, this time with a liberally lubricated hinge pin as well as duct = tape=20 protecting the hinge joint.
 
The point of this story is:  = You've got at=20 least two more tries before you can claim "Worst Header Tank Attachment=20 Experience".
 
I've been at it with this kit for (this = number=20 can't be right) just over 4000 hours and 10 years, and I can sympathize = with the=20 desire to just get the part finished, but everybody else has pretty much = covered=20 why you wouldn't want to do this.  If those hinges are kicking your = butt,=20 use the screw method.  I saw a beautiful LNC2 at Oshkosh a few = years ago=20 that had a screwed-on header tank (naturally, AFTER I went through all = that with=20 the hinges).  Think about this:  If you sprung a leak between = the=20 header tank and the forward deck on the forward side of your header = tank, what=20 would you do?
 
Gary Fitzgerald
LNC2 extra-slow = build=20 ~70%
engine: TBD
St. Charles, MO
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bryan = Wullner=20
 
Anyone have good reasoning as to why = I shouldn't=20 permanantly bond my header tank on?  I tried the hinge method and = the fit=20 with the cowling was terrible so I had to take the entire thing apart=20 today.
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