X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:24:20 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.225] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2430492 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:15:09 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.225; envelope-from=jfcowell@gmail.com Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so148673nzf for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EskLh8jdhbyitTbPVdsjVjgQMJ/pfaTGJehmGb3Fv6HcryLKM1P4mu+DDcNqi9GEXZocxMw8AwpmuO1DnsPrgg3bafPuVtKQ/VdToFPFgPr0IxV+4acAdv8TqVC0WRMdLW9fP0e/piXp5pHlY4taozdET4U4tCEHF6bSzlONy2M= Received: by 10.143.14.16 with SMTP id r16mr43534wfi.1193228070056; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.191.10 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <9a1019e70710240514k602d8e1an1fc85db71ffaf6be@mail.gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:14:30 -0400 From: "Jack Cowell" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: leading edge tape and speed loss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4100_26641962.1193228070050" ------=_Part_4100_26641962.1193228070050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jack Cowell" To: "Lancair Mailing List" < lml@lancaironline.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:12:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Leading Edge Tape - speed penalty As an aside to this thread, I now have the leading edges covered with the Therm-X de-icing system's silver foil and *maybe* have lost 3 - 5 knots in the flight levels. The tape wraps around the edges and covers about five inches up the wing beyond the center of the leading edge and is filled in and clear coated aft of the foil surface's edge. For more precise data on this, Mark, Dave and Justin at RDD Entertpises in Redmond are the go-to guys. On 10/23/07, Colyn Case on earthlink wrote: > > *Fred said,* > *I recall querying the 3M rep at OSH* *about this. His answer: take some > clear finish paint and with a fine brush and a lot of patience, fill in the > step behind the tape. He said it flows and fills nicely.* > ** > Fred, I don't see how that can possibly work. It's the shape of the > curve you have to manage, not just how smooth it is, right? The edge of 1" > tape would fall right in the region of the airfoil where the curve is > changing very quickly. I can imagine if you continued the tape to a > relatively flat part of the airfoil, it might work. but then you would need > 3' wide tape or more. > ------=_Part_4100_26641962.1193228070050 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Jack Cowell" <jfcowell@gmail.com>
To: "Lancair Mailing List" < lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:12:15 -0400
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Leading Edge Tape - speed penalty
 
As an aside to this thread, I now have the leading edges covered with the Therm-X de-icing system's silver foil and maybe have lost 3 - 5 knots in the flight levels.  The tape wraps around the edges and covers about five inches up the wing beyond the center of the leading edge and is filled in and clear coated aft of the foil surface's edge. For more precise data on this, Mark, Dave and Justin at RDD Entertpises in Redmond are the go-to guys.

 
On 10/23/07, Colyn Case on earthlink <colyncase@earthlink.net > wrote:
Fred said,
I recall querying the 3M rep at OSH about this.  His answer: take some clear finish paint and with a fine brush and a lot of patience, fill in the step behind the tape.  He said it flows and fills nicely.  
 
Fred, I don't see how that can possibly work.    It's the shape of the curve you have to manage, not just how smooth it is, right?  The edge of 1" tape would fall right in the region of the airfoil where the curve is changing very quickly.   I can imagine if you continued the tape to a relatively flat part of the airfoil, it might work.  but then you would need 3' wide tape or more.

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