X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.225.91] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2182448 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:23:12 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.225.91; envelope-from=mjrav@comcast.net Received: from mjr (c-24-60-93-2.hsd1.ma.comcast.net[24.60.93.2]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20070717122233b1100hovp6e>; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:22:33 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <001701c7c86d$1b30ec50$025d3c18@mjr> From: "Mark Ravinski" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WARBIRD ARRIVAL X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:22:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C7C84B.93D2DA00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C7C84B.93D2DA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Arrival at OSH "Airventure" can be a real adventure. I've been in there and Sun-n Fun about 20 times. Three occasions were = memorable adventures. If you happen to go in when they are busy, you should not be surprised = to be backed up behind a lot of slow airplanes. Lancairs can be flown = safely at the speeds required for standard arrivals when others are = following the procedure. The controllers are some of the best and they don't like pressure and = being put on the spot any more than pilots do. If I were a controller, = I would really appreciate having a runway available for an emergency. I think it is unreasonable for fast homebuilt planes to expect the same = priority as some of the other arrivals. Rather, the warbird arrival = should be one of many options you consider as needed. =20 Don't run out of options and don't try to get in there without at least = an hour's worth of extra fuel. Mark Ravinski N360KB 1410 hrs ----- Original Message -----=20 From: vtailjeff@aol.com=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: [LML] Re: WARBIRD ARRIVAL I use it all the time.... -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Kohler To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:54 am Subject: [LML] WARBIRD ARRIVAL : This procedure is restricted to highperformance turbojet and twin = turboprop aircraft and to Warbird aircraft capable of cruising at 130 knots or greater. =20 Jeff E. Has anyone asked for an exemption for High Performance Lancair's???=20 Charlie K.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free = from AOL at AOL.com. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C7C84B.93D2DA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Arrival at OSH "Airventure" can be a = real=20 adventure.
I've been in there and Sun-n Fun about = 20=20 times.  Three occasions were memorable = adventures.
If you happen to go in when they are = busy, you=20 should not be surprised to be backed up behind a lot of slow = airplanes. =20 Lancairs can be flown safely at the speeds required for standard = arrivals when=20 others are following the procedure.
 
The controllers are some of the best = and they don't=20 like pressure and being put on the spot any more than pilots do.  = If I were=20 a controller, I would really appreciate having a runway available for an = emergency.
 
I think it is unreasonable for fast = homebuilt=20 planes to expect the same priority as some of the other arrivals.  = Rather,=20 the warbird arrival should be one of many options you consider as = needed. =20
Don't run out of options and don't try = to get in=20 there without at least an hour's worth of extra fuel.
 
Mark Ravinski
N360KB  1410 hrs
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 vtailjeff@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 = 7:50=20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: WARBIRD = ARRIVAL

I use it all the time....


-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Charlie Kohler <charliekohler@yahoo.com>To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: = Mon,=20 16 Jul 2007 11:54 am
Subject: [LML] WARBIRD ARRIVAL

 
 
:  This = procedure is=20 restricted to highperformance turbojet and twin turboprop aircraft and = to=20 Warbird aircraft capable of
cruising at 130 knots or greater.

 
 
Jeff E.
Has anyone asked for an exemption for High Performance=20 Lancair's??? 
Charlie K.=20
AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free = from=20 AOL at AOL.com.
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