X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:54:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mtao05.charter.net ([209.225.8.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2040182 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 12 May 2007 16:40:19 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.8.179; envelope-from=rpharis@teamimc.com Received: from aa09.charter.net ([10.20.200.161]) by mtao05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070512203933.HMVL1417.mtao05.charter.net@aa09.charter.net> for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 16:39:33 -0400 Received: from ws1 ([71.80.234.210]) by aa09.charter.net with SMTP id <20070512203933.IJUH9949.aa09.charter.net@ws1> for ; Sat, 12 May 2007 16:39:33 -0400 From: "Rod Pharis" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Mountain Air Oxygen X-Original-Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 13:39:02 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c794d5$93d01120$6501a8c0@ws1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 X-Chzlrs: 0 Exactly true! When suppliers of oxygen bottles, valves, tubing and fittings, package, advertise and tag items stating, "Approved for oxygen service," they mean that the items have been surgically cleaned of oil and grease as well as the usual metal chips, dirt and other manufacturing debris. Intentionally applying grease or oil, or even mishandle with dirty hands would be ludicrous! Rod Pharis Principal Engineer Northrop Grumman Corporation -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Alain NOIREAUX Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:30 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Mountain Air Oxygen I can tell you that , when I was a jet fighter pilot ,I have seen a fire starting in a cockpit where a friend of mine was waiting to start up . An oxygen leak on a patch of grease on the canopy locking system and the fire started . My comrade bailed out and ramp technicians used extinguishers to stop the fire quickly. It is serious,not "old wives tales" nor hangar jokes . Keep that in mind when using oxygen and have nice flights . Alain NOIREAUX Chuck Jensen a écrit : > Rick wrote... > > Oil, grease, etc can spontaneously combust in an oxygen rich > environment. > > Want to try an experiment - Shoot pure O2 from an oxy/acetylene torch at > an oily/greasy shop rag. Be prepared for fire. Thus, caution when > using a torch with dirty (greasy) jeans and don't introduce ANY oil into > your o2 system. > > Seems there was once even a warning about not using lipstick and oxygen > together as the lipstick had a somewhat greasy base and could ignite > when bathed in O2. (Myth???) > ------ > I understand that oils will oxidize (light, more volatile petroleum > products do so faster than more viscous products, such as grease) and in > a pile of rags, the slow oxidation can eventually generate enough heat > to cause spontaneous combustion, but I'm not sure how that phenomena, or > the torch analogy, apply to our aircraft and cockpit. Nonetheless, your > points are well taken and in the interest of safety and on the side of > caution, I'm not going to wear lipstick when I use oxygen. :-) > > Chuck > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > > > -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html