X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:00:39 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mtai01.charter.net ([209.225.8.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with ESMTP id 1758767 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:16:00 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.8.181; envelope-from=GAMarr@Charter.Net Received: from aa07.charter.net ([10.20.200.159]) by mtai01.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20070114191514.TPCG1339.mtai01.charter.net@aa07.charter.net> for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:15:14 -0500 Received: from DB77R351 ([68.113.203.55]) by aa07.charter.net with ESMTP id <20070114191514.MIER8146.aa07.charter.net@DB77R351> for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:15:14 -0500 From: "Giffen Marr" X-Original-To: References: Subject: To solder or not to solder, that is the question X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:15:08 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <012e01c73810$4e93a6c0$0301a8c0@DB77R351> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc3y2XUg9GFvEnUT86WDdkn0GEiXwAQyE0Q In-Reply-To: X-Chzlrs: 0 I would strongly suggest that for you that have not gotten on this list do so! - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse _-= the many List utilities such as the Subscriptions page, _-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, _-= Photoshare, and much much more: _-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List Bob Nuckools, III also publishes an Aviation Electrical Book that is invaluable. I use him as my electrical expert. The book gives you diagrams for the very basic to the most complex electrical system you may ever want for your aircraft. Giff Marr LIV-P/Mistral 65% -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Stallard [mailto:Kevin@arilabs.net] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 1:38 PM To: lml Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Connectors All I can say is that you won't find wires soldered to anything in aerospace/military grade wire harnesses. Soldered stranded wires will eventually break off if soldered, it makes a shear point. If you need further proof I would suggest you convince yourself. Do an experiment. Solder the wire to the connector. Wiggle it up and down. With the connector fixed to something hard so it won't move. See how fast it breaks. Now do the same with a crimped connection. If using an un-calibrated tool, play with the force you use to crimp the wire. This will allow you to form your own opinion. Kevin L2K-291 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Marvin Kaye Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:36 AM To: lml Subject: [LML] Re: Connectors Posted for "cblitzer" : I am curious, what does one do when Bob Pastusek says (solder joints are good), and Kevin says (solder joints are bad)? Can they both be correct or does one have to be incorrect """ Solder joints are bad. """ """ I'll pass on some advice Brent Regan gave me many years ago: The best/most reliable connector is a good solder joint--or no connector at all. When you must use one, make it the best you can afford." Starting with this simple and sound advice, I've managed to scatter connectors all over my airplane, but also have left working loops and solder connections where possible--trim motor connections to the aircraft wiring, for example. """ -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/