Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #38897
From: Craig Berland <cberland@systems3.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Friction loss
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:49:01 -0500
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Paul,
All dyno testing of automotive engines I have done suggests that friction is linear relative to rpm as you suggest. That is of course unless you deprive a sliding surface of lubrication.  All friction studies I have done were on "motoring" engines therefore any added ring drag due to compression loads were not comprehended. On the relatively constant speed of our aircraft engines, I can't imagine it would have any proportional effect.  I suspect prop effientcy and other similar factors are bigger guns on reducing bsfc numbers that the internal engine parts when it comes to minor engine speed changes.  Certainly timing would be a factor on naturally aspirated engines at altitude.
Craig Berland


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Paul Lipps
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:37 AM
To: lml
Subject: [LML] Friction loss

Friction or Coulomb* loss is independent of sliding rate. However, the friction loss in pounds, when multiplied by rate, yields hp. As rpm goes up, so does the friction hp. Also, as rpm goes up, engine power, at a given MEP, also goes up proportionatly. It would seem that the friction hp would maintain a certain percentage of the overall power input, and I'm not sure how this would cause a change in SFC. Also, I'm not sure of the effect of increased MEP on the coefficient of friction. Does it go up with the increased pressure of the rings against the cylinder walls at higher MEP? Keeping MEP max certainly cuts down on pumping loss! I seek enlightenment!
 
*Charles Augustin de Coulomb
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