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Joseph C. Bartels, CEO
Lancair International, Inc.

________________________________

From: Joe Bartels
Sent: Fri 11/10/2006 5:33 AM
Subject: turbines


Marv:
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Please post the following:
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Listers:
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Lancair turbine crashes are as varied as the pilots involved in those =
crashes.  I am extremely upset by each and every one of those incidents. =
 We send representatives to virtually all of the crash sites and assist =
the FAA and NTSB in the investigations.  It is never easy to be part of =
that process, but, it does help us all to better understand what =
happened so that we can all further learn from the facts of that =
incident.
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Years ago I began the process of working with the insurance industry to =
put forth certain standards that would reduce the number of accidents =
involving our aircraft.  Those standards include 1) building the =
aircraft at Lancair OR following its completion, having it inspected, =
for insurance purposes, by one of our Lancair approved inspectors;  2)  =
that the systems remain stock, that is, that there are no modifications =
to the airframe which are not pre-approved by our engineering staff;  3) =
 that the owner/operator receive training through our Lancair sponsored =
flight training program (HPATS).  That program includes a)  initial =
training;  b) recurrency training 6 months thereafter;  c)  recurrency =
training 6 months thereafter; and, d)  annually thereafter.  This was =
not a singular system thought of by myself or anyone at Lancair for the =
purpose of limiting the experimental enjoyment of the airframe.  It was =
so that AIG Insurance would provide coverage to a series of aircraft =
that, to that point, had not and would not have received airframe =
coverage.
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While training does not guarantee safe operation of an aircraft, it =
greatly improves the chances that the pilot will fly as he has been =
trained, and in the face of an emergency will survive. =20
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What happened in Georgia? =20
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Simply put, there was a fuel starvation problem that should have =
resulted in a safe landing when following standard training taught by =
HPAT. =20
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What caused the fuel starvation problem?
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This aircraft had a non-standard fuel system which incorporated two fuel =
control valves and a rear mounted auxiliary tank.
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Was this system approved by Lancair?
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No it was not.
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Did the pilot receive HPAT training?
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No he did not.  It appears that he was in control of the aircraft until =
he became too slow and stalled/spun into the ground.  While I do not =
have all of the information at present, it appears that should he have =
not have stalled, he might have survived the accident.=20
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Was his aircraft powered with a factory overhauled or new engine?
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No it was not.
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While none of these facts could singularly be determined to be the =
reason for the crash or the fatality, all of these facts can be =
interpreted as supportive of why Lancair and AIG insist on inspection, =
training and conformity.  It is not to control you or drive you from =
experimental aircraft.  It is instead to give you the best chance of =
continuing to enjoy the finest high performance kit aircraft in the =
world!
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Joseph C. Bartels, CEO
Lancair International, Inc.

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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Lancair turbine crashes are as varied as the pilots =
involved in those crashes.&nbsp; I am extremely upset by each and every =
one of those incidents.&nbsp; We send representatives to virtually all =
of the crash sites and assist the FAA and NTSB in the =
investigations.&nbsp; It is never easy to be part of that process, but, =
it does help us all to better understand what happened so that we can =
all further learn from the facts of that incident.</DIV>=0A=
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A=
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Years ago I began the process of working with the =
insurance industry to put forth certain standards that would reduce the =
number of accidents involving our aircraft.&nbsp; Those standards =
include 1) building the aircraft at Lancair <FONT =
size=3D4><STRONG><EM><U>OR</U></EM></STRONG></FONT><FONT size=3D3> =
following its completion, having it inspected, for insurance purposes, =
by one of our Lancair approved inspectors;&nbsp; 2)&nbsp; that the =
systems remain stock, that is, that there are no modifications to the =
airframe which are not pre-approved by our engineering staff;&nbsp; =
3)&nbsp; that the owner/operator receive training through our Lancair =
sponsored flight training program (HPATS).&nbsp; That program includes =
a)&nbsp; initial training;&nbsp; b) recurrency training 6 months =
thereafter;&nbsp; c)&nbsp; recurrency training 6 months thereafter; and, =
d)&nbsp; annually thereafter.&nbsp; This was not a singular system =
thought of by myself or anyone at Lancair for the purpose of limiting =
the experimental enjoyment of the airframe.&nbsp; It was so that AIG =
Insurance would provide coverage to a series of aircraft that, to that =
point, had not and would not have received airframe =
coverage.</FONT></DIV>=0A=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>While training does not guarantee safe operation of an =
aircraft, it greatly improves the chances that the pilot will fly as he =
has been trained, and in the face of an emergency will survive.&nbsp; =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Simply put, there was a fuel starvation&nbsp;problem that =
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the aircraft until he became too slow and stalled/spun into the =
ground.&nbsp; While I do not have all of the information at present, it =
appears that should he have not have stalled, he&nbsp;might have =
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to be the reason for the crash or the fatality, all of these facts can =
be interpreted as supportive of why Lancair and AIG insist on =
inspection, training and conformity.&nbsp; It is not to control you or =
drive you from experimental aircraft.&nbsp; It is instead to give you =
the best chance of continuing to enjoy the finest high performance kit =
aircraft in the world!</DIV>=0A=
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