Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #38340
From: rtitsworth <rtitsworth@mindspring.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Lancair down in Georgia
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:24:21 -0500
To: <lml>

It’s always sensitive to speculate without full data/insight.  However, one might “guess” that the initial rapid descent (dive) was to get down to high/normal pressure air, being the cabin would de-pressurize without bleed air???

 

I’m also guessing that the speeds shown are ground speed (raw radar speed)?  Even without any wind, IAS at altitude would be somewhat less (~30% less at 20,000ft).

 

I’m not sure exactly how accurate the radar is, which would effect the accuracy of speed shown/calculated between radar returns, but the “37” @ 4400ft would seem to be a problem (unless there was a huge headwind or perhaps a sharp turn such that 37 was a inferred speed based on straight line distance between radar returns rather than the actual flight path of a 180 turn – i.e. the “calculated” speed of a large circle could be zero).

 

Rick

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of colyncase on earthlink
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:26 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair down in Georgia

 

from flight aware

looks like power loss happened about 12:23 at 21000

initial descent rate > 3000fpm

not sure if anything after 12:31 is valid

 

I had always hoped for -600fpm/120 knots prop at full feather if

I encountered this situation.   That would have been good for 32

minutes and 64 nm.   I wonder what else was going on.

 

If these are decimal lat/long the sequence starts over DNN

and ends 3.1nm further north.   I must have something wrong.

 

12:22PM

34.72

-84.85

280

21000

12:23PM

34.68

-84.87

197

21000

12:24PM

34.68

-84.95

156

16400 descending

12:25PM

34.73

-84.98

234

14000 descending

12:25PM

34.73

-85.00

143

14200 climbing

12:26PM

34.78

-84.95

129

11700 descending

12:27PM

34.82

-84.88

134

9800 descending

12:28PM

34.83

-84.83

154

7700 descending

12:29PM

34.85

-84.83

177

6700 descending

12:29PM

34.87

-84.85

97

6300 descending

12:30PM

34.85

-84.88

37

4400 descending

12:31PM

34.82

-84.88

55

2700 descending

12:32PM

34.78

-84.88

97

2500 descending

12:32PM

34.78

-84.88

80

1300 descending

12:36PM

34.78

-84.88

97

2500 climbing

12:41PM

34.78

-84.88

97

2500

12:44PM

34.78

-84.88

97

2500

 

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