X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:19:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [206.246.194.60] (HELO visi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.6) with ESMTP id 1470579 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.246.194.60; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from [70.108.250.154] (HELO boblaptop2) by visi.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with SMTP id 173276515 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:46:15 -0400 From: "Robert R Pastusek" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] how many hours does it take to build a IV-P? X-Original-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:44:39 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01C6F14A.C1341E10" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C6F14A.C1341E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Hafen asks: On average (if there is such a thing), how many man hours does it take to complete the construction of a Lancair IV-P? Well, as my mother in law used to say, this is a deep subject... but I can't resist opening the bidding. When I started my IV-P in 1999, the marketing words were "... 3000 hours or so," but most "real" builders at the time were saying this was well less than required for the "average" builder. At 5000+ hours and some to go, I would say twice that (6,000 hours) is probably closer to to the mark. I consider myself an average builder, and should come in somewhere around 6,000 hours. My partner and I built two together and we realized some savings and efficiencies that were negated in part by the "re-do's" to improve various parts, and the addition of air conditioning, etc. Looking back (and forward), I believe that one of these beauties could be built in 3,000 hours, but to do this, you'd need some significant experience in composite construction, wiring and basic aircraft systems; and a couple of Lancair building projects under your belt. And if you are building for the first time, and to the standards of some of our friends, 6,000 hours is probably not enough! So this is an opening gambit. The standard deviation on the "average" you seek, due to differences in experience and objectives---and other intangibles-- is huge. I solicit the views of others! Bob Pastusek ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C6F14A.C1341E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John=20 Hafen asks:

On average (if there is = such a=20 thing), how many man hours does it take to complete the construction of = a=20 Lancair IV-P?

Well, as my mother in law used to say, = this is a=20 deep subject... but I can't resist opening the bidding. When I = started=20 my IV-P in 1999, the marketing words were "... 3000 hours or so," but = most=20 "real" builders at the time were saying this was well less than required = for the=20 "average" builder. At 5000+ hours and some to go, I would say twice that = (6,000=20 hours) is probably closer to to the mark. I consider myself an average = builder,=20 and should come in somewhere around 6,000 hours. My partner and I built = two=20 together and we realized some savings and efficiencies that were negated = in part=20 by the "re-do's" to improve various parts, and the addition of air = conditioning,=20 etc.

Looking back (and forward), I believe that = one of these=20 beauties could be built in 3,000 hours, but to do this, you'd need some=20 significant experience in composite construction, wiring and basic = aircraft=20 systems; and a couple of Lancair building projects under your belt. And = if you=20 are building for the first time, and to the standards of some of our = friends,=20 6,000 hours is probably not enough!

So=20 this is an opening gambit. The standard deviation on the "average" you = seek, due=20 to differences in experience and objectives---and=20 other intangibles-- is huge. I solicit the views of=20 others!

Bob=20 Pastusek

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