X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [70.62.14.124] (HELO server1.USTEK) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1321052 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:43:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=70.62.14.124; envelope-from=lancair@USTEK.COM Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Wing Twist and EI observations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6BF21.A871E3E0" X-Original-Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:41:33 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Wing Twist and EI observations Thread-Index: Aca/DyOrZRzSKRWpQwa2e3iOQ3n/GgAEhtIF References: From: "Lancair" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Cc: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6BF21.A871E3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Craig, =20 A new oil pump sound a whole lot faster and cheaper than tearing down = the engine. This could be a good thing. I shall discuss with the local = Wizards and pursue. =20 Robert ________________________________ From: Lancair Mailing List on behalf of Craig Berland Sent: Sun 8/13/2006 3:30 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: Wing Twist and EI observations Robert M. Simon wrote: Still working on a very low oil pressure problem. Pressure tested the gauge and it is correct. Startup is 45-50 psi, idle at 1,000 shows 40 psi at 110 F, 35 at 120 F, 30 at 130 F, 25 at 140 F. In cruise it stays at about 22 psi and 185-190 F. On landing and pulled back to idle pressure dromps quickly to 5 psi and if I do not goose it quickly, down to 2 psi! To get back to the hanger or for another TO I have to keep the RPM at 1,000 and ride the brakes. I screwed the pressure controller all the way in and got no change. I pulled it and gave it the old evil-eye (no obstruction seen), put it back, and no change. Ron Munson at Performance said that they had no problems on testing so it leaves me scratching my head. Today we'll pull the aux oil pump out of the system, cap the ends, and see what happens. =20 Robert, while at General Motors I worked on an aluminum body positive displacement oil pump identical in operation to the Continental TSIO 550 oil pump. Here is what I know. The aluminum body makes the oil pump performance with warm to hot oil very sensitive to gear clearances. The gear body cover needs to be very flat, the gear bores must be very close in clearance to the gears, etc. When the oil is cold, the aluminum body is cold and the clearances are close and the oil pressure is good. As the oil heats up the clearances increase because the aluminum body expands faster than the steel gears. The worst case oil pressure will always be at idle with hot oil. With that said, IF the oil pressure was good at idle and at hot (normal temp at landing) oil temp at one time, then something has changed and the first thing I would check is the pickup tube for cracks and for other leaks (gaskets or pressure regulator). The oil pump did not wear out in just a few hours. If you can not find any leaks, I would replace the oil pump with a new one. Rebuilding your current pump will not likely have the results you are looking for. Craig Berland -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6BF21.A871E3E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ih8VAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEALQAAAFJFOiBbTE1MXSBSZTogV2lu ZyBUd2lzdCBhbmQgRUkgb2JzZXJ2YXRpb25zAM8OAQWAAwAOAAAA1gcIAA0AEQApACEAAABNAQEg gAMADgAAANYHCAANABEALAAeAAAATQEBCYABACEAAABBMUVBMEJBRDBEMkVCQTQyOEREQjREN0Q3 MzJCMzE1RABzBwEDkAYA0BMAADgAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQAUmvY+Ib/GAR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJF OiAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAtAAAAYz1VUzthPSA7cD1VU1RFSztsPVNFUlZFUjEtMDYwODEzMjE0NDMw Wi0xMTgAAAAAHgBJAAEAAAApAAAAW0xNTF0gUmU6IFdpbmcgVHdpc3QgYW5kIEVJIG9ic2VydmF0 aW9ucwAAAABAAE4AgP3X5g6/xgEeAFoAAQAAABUAAABMYW5jYWlyIE1haWxpbmcgTGlzdAAAAAAC AVsAAQAAAEgAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAABMYW5jYWlyIE1haWxpbmcgTGlzdABT TVRQAGxtbEBsYW5jYWlyb25saW5lLm5ldAACAVwAAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOkxNTEBMQU5DQUlST05M 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