X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:38:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.137.4] (HELO imo-m23.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1317359 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:34:47 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.4; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id q.bcc.15645fc (32914) for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:33:58 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Internal (ELT) antennas X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_boundary" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5318 X-Spam-Flag: NO --part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_boundary Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_rel_boundary" --part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_rel_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="bcc.15645fc_alt_bound" --bcc.15645fc_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/24/2006 11:41:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, toucan@Satx.rr.com writes: Ok, guys, thanks for the two or three postings with suggestions on the ELT antenna, but these postings referred to the ES, which has, of course, an e-glass empennage. The Legacy and IV's, with their all-carbon bodies, require some other solution. And no, you can't put the ELT antenna out in the e-glass wingtip, since it's supposed to be located as close to the ELT as possible, and definitely not in something likely to wander off during a crash, like a wing tip. I'm thinking about a Jim Wier-style copper foil tape on the outside of the fuselage, then covered over and faired in with micro. Maybe.... Jim, Today, an ELT that transmits on 121.5 merely requires a simple comm antenna since the frequency is a comm frequency. It is up to you to figure out what your vertical orientation will be when you crash (horizontal as a slide in or vertical when the engine has driven itself about 4 feet into the turf). The question will be, what is the antenna required for the 406 MHz ELT you MUST have in 2009? Think about it and then contact your local avionics shop. Scott Krueger MotorMouth, Charlatan, Bon Vivant, Escapee, Etcetera... --bcc.15645fc_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 7/24/2006 11:41:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 toucan@Satx.rr.com writes:
Ok, guys, thanks for the two or three postings with=20 suggestions on the ELT antenna, but these postings referred to the ES, whi= ch=20 has, of course, an e-glass empennage.  The Legacy and IV's, with thei= r=20 all-carbon bodies, require some other solution.  And no, you can't=20 put the ELT antenna out in the e-glass wingtip, since it's suppo= sed=20 to be located as close to the ELT as possible, and definitely not in=20 something likely to wander off during a crash, like a wing=20 tip. 
    I'm thinking about a Jim Wier-style= =20 copper foil tape on the outside of the fuselage, then covered ove= r=20 and faired in with micro.  Maybe....
=
Jim,
 
Today, an ELT that transmits on 121.5 merely requires a simple comm ant= enna=20 since the frequency is a comm frequency.  It is up to you to figure out= =20 what your vertical orientation will be when you crash (horizontal as a slide= in=20 or vertical when the engine has driven itself about 4 feet into the turf).&n= bsp;=20 The question will be, what is the antenna required for the 406 MHz ELT you M= UST=20 have in 2009?
 
Think about it and then contact your local avionics shop.=20
 
Scott=20 Krueger
MotorMouth, Charlatan, Bon Vivant, Escapee, Etcetera...
--bcc.15645fc_alt_bound-- --part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_rel_boundary Content-ID: Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="images[1].jpg" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAAAAAAAD/wAARCABiAGIDASIAAhEBAxEB/9sAQwAQCwwODAoQDg0O EhEQExgoGhgWFhgxIyUdKDozPTw5Mzg3QEhcTkBEV0U3OFBtUVdfYmdoZz5NcXlwZHhcZWdj /9sAQwEREhIYFRgvGhovY0I4QmNjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2Nj Y2NjY2NjY2NjY2NjY2Nj/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAHwEA AwEBAQEBAQEBAQAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAAAgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQR BRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkKFhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RF RkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWGh4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ip qrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDc1fWZ0uWt7QhQn3mwCc+lVob+c/fvGXPX JJ/lWdqExsdQu45lk2RuAZChK8jI5Hf8Oxpqanp7qAWiGO+SM/gRQB0MdyHXK37nHU/N/jTw XYZF8/HUjdiuea9090Cm4RQDnhiOfwFTR6rZRxGMXaYPfLZH6UAbYD4z9vcg8A5b/Gn+XKRn 7ZJj6t/jXOx6hYwyM63nLdfvGp/7dsQci5AP0c/0pgbXlSEAi9kI9QzH+tKEckr9tkyOoy3+ NZa+JbFQAZIjgddj/wCFB8T2RPEsQH+49FgNNoin3rxuTgZz/jS4KRsBdnB6nBzWQ/iGxfkz Rg/7r1CddsgCFnQEjGRGx/mKALdxNIjEpdSt3G3IP6mmWOs3cVwokkMkJIBDckfj1rOk1azY k+eMn0jYH+VVU1CG4u4re2EjySuEBCAD0zz6fSiwHowdSM7utLuX1pscaxxqgY4UADn0p2B/ eP50gPNPGW//AISWdM8MqcZ4Pygf41duoLbRNNSQWy3EzEKWccZOSc+g9AKqeNcjxM+Ovlp0 +ladprNncwCO7ZYpQAHSUYBP48Y+tcmMc0ouKuutjSnbUz7TU7K7ilS6hhtpFQlHXgHjp9fz rU0lbe906KdrdFY5BA55B6/jiifSNOvYiY441yPlkiIAz+HBpdCiaDTRC5+ZJHUn33EVw1a8 XTbptp32+81UXfUoadqVpf3n2Z7JY2OdrBsg9+ePQUmo2c0Wp28Ns+I5yeoyVxjP4YOaS1Ok aTK0xujPNggbRnHqBjgH6mrum3LajLNfMoREHlQhj07kk+p4rWdScJOcL8tuvf5kpJqz3LUl rBPbSRwFQ65UMBkqw9f61ysGoTwXypcRLJtYo6NxznHX1FdBo9nPZyTCW5ilEp3YUnO7uefX +lZXiO08nUobhB8sxAOP7wI/mMfkaeGq2nKk5XT2YTjpzHRy2cDxMqoisQQGC9Djg1zWkxXF 3qhhuANkJJkG3HQ4A/Ot57zytZS1dvllhyoPZgT/ADH8hUWpSRabFLPENs9y4XI9emfy5+pr CjWqxThu5bFSjF69hmtJb2enPJHbQ72IQEqPlyDz+Fczp0rvrtm5wCZkHyjAxkDpXT+JRnSG Po6/zx/WuX04Y1my44EqH9a7sA3Kk5PV3M6ujsev0UUV2GR5v4zcx+J/MUcqiEZ9qW7is9cK TwXSQ3G0K8ch6/4/UZ7UeNBjxOhYYUxp1+pH9DWfM9sqkNHGSc7Sq5GPcgjHNROlzNSTs0Up W0Zr2RttBtZTPdJLI+CI0OScDjH1zyTirWnX1pHZr517b+Y5Z2HmAYySSME54zXLh7QIhKqT wGGwg9Bk5BxROsMsQEMfzg9QpGR75OP0rnlgPaX5m235Fe15SG9jSK7lSOZZUByHXkEHmt+c Wn/CPmytbyN3UBiFOS564wOnOPyGaxIbCWU8kKMZPetGK1a2wFjLFzy2AABjv7VpiYNcqb1W v/Dl0Iqd2tivp1o0d3BL5yoUcE4/hx1zj8iK6K/ay1CARi5jVo5AQ3XBB5H5ZFZSQhNoiVFT cWc45Awe31xRkF0mD7okyCuODjjPHpiuSpF1Zqbex0+yilYd4gmtpJYby2vI2niIARTknBOD 14xVO51A6tfWwmZbaNMAlmyB3yTx1wB/WppLZbqCOYqwT7w5GT9ay7iNY1LoHAyQFcYP1reh CCSi91ez7XMKkGtVsdVqt1Y3enSwi9hDEAjDAkkEHGAc84x+Nc1YDGrWZPTzU/mKW0+yOhEs YDAZDFyA3PoAfWpovL/te1MeAodfu5wDn35rehQVCLincxlLmdz1aiiitCDzrx9/yH4f+vcf +hNWHHC0jIoBG8gA471v+OUMniO1jAPzQAcf7zU+1t0gjA2gn1xVcyivMcYOT8irDpUMaAsC zdya0LKKzhOJbcOc8OcnH4Hin7SxyAfehlVULscAck+grPnmups6UHuizemIpEsQXbkkBQAP Sq2APvAHPHAqjHfJJdFFVguMK/Yn0q4CSQM5HpUN3dy1HlVkL5aMpUZAPXHFQi38tAiAhVzt AOMZqcNkHIPWnbgcA+vXNS4plKTRjak8kDRvEcIPvKRnJweM/jWRcTvcscjCg5xnpXTajEj2 krAAlVOK5UZJwOD2qoRSIqTZLGFBABzzVi0H/Extj38xf5iq62znaVGc9xzVq3QpqFtnoZF/ mK6Fdq5zcyvY9ZoooqAOD8Yt5fiS3fji3HX/AHmpsNwjKCWwe4NJ46WQ63bNGjNiHnAP9406 0gi1S1DJIYrlAA3Gd3oSD6+vrRKDcVKJdOoovll1JTIi5YuoHPQ5NUZHfUJhDFkQqfmb1p0U ETSyQSvveM4YqCBn8RV9I4oogqIFHTjtWSu9zobS2GpDGkQiCAp0II9O9NBUOV2lB2wTjH41 YIJyOnQg+1Q3AATzDkFeh9aGhJ6gQfvKcjoRTcnHpj2609OUyM80uASMrn9KY7lPUZQthMc4 yuAffp/WucWFlAYjg9s4zXSX1mbnbtkIAPTH8vesia3lgcI6d89eCO3IqomFVvsQws8cgwrb 8AjvjvU4dvtVs7LhhJkgjpg1dFlNGguLgvGGUbACd7HsMdcDAz+FUXWU3CyurABwMsMEnOfq fX8a2jpF+ZzbyR6rmjNA6UtZmpxHi+RDrMXI3JFjnnkn/wCvWJFPJaOssbkMrAZzkkHPB/L8 selbPijRrqbUZLgIWjfoM9PcH/GsJrW5CiMW8u1TkkjcSfw7DsPrVxdhNJ6M1ZtSju4AUjSO 5yCSSdp9T6Z+v505rl4UBYDaTwc5/XvWSLO5OP8AR5Rn1XFSJDeRnKxyqfYVMoReq0LhOUVb cutqqD+6fpzVS4vbi8YJHG7KCOMHmpY59Qj5WFm92jBP6irceqamgA+yg/8AAMfypezXcp1X 0Q+O5EWyGWJ0cqCAR29zWoBsgV44t+4ZI254xn+o/CsmTU9QkADWSHHTKE/zot9W1GMFWs9y g8BQVx7cUcluonU5uhr+YoBBgJYAk4Uc9fb/ADkUimMylvs2HzwdgGOvf8P1rN/tW5P37B2P qWOR+QpV1W4QfJYOpIwSGOf1FFmTddiTVkkWGC+zskBC7TzkNkYx64/maxLgEGMAtjzMkEEY zwMce36VZvbu8vXTMDKqHdtIzk9iScev6mmLY6jfSBSuMnPQZ4z/AJ5qumokegQ3ayQxvx8y g/pT/tCe1YsOi3Swovm9FA60/wDsa6/57frUgbp5U5qlcwQ7v9UnU/wirvY1VufvD6mgCmYY tw/dJ0/uik8iH/nkn/fIqQ/eH0pKAI/Ih/55J/3yKeIIf+eUf/fIpaeKAIfs8P8Azyj/AO+R R9nhz/qo/wDvkVJR3oAaIIf+eUf/AHyKd9nh/wCeMf8A3yKcKdQAJbQbl/cR9R/AKupGka/I ir9Biq6feX6irfagBaKKKAGnlTmqVzBDu/1SdT/CKu9jVW5+8PqaAKZhi3D90nT+6KTyIf8A nkn/AHyKkP3h9KSgCPyIf+eSf98iniCH/nlH/wB8ilp4oAh+zw/88o/++RR9nhz/AKqP/vkV JR3oAaIIf+eUf/fIp32eH/njH/3yKcKdQAJbQbl/cR9R/AKupGka/Iir9Biq6feX6irfagBa KKKA/9k= --part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_rel_boundary-- --part1_bcc.15645fc.31f939c6_boundary--