Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #36545
From: Bill&Sue <5zq@cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [LML] LNC2-handling without nose strut infaltion
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:30:12 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Hi Fred,
 
The LNC2 will do a soft field takeoff just fine. It just takes some practice. I get my nosewheel in the air at about 40 kts. The plane lifts off around 55 kts. The airplane is perfectly capable of doing this safely.
 
We do our soft field takeoffs with about 20 degrees of flap. Start the takeoff roll with the stick full back, just like a Cessna 150. The big difference from a Cessna is that when the elevator gains enough bite to lift the nosewheel it will come off the ground quite quickly. If you're not used to this or expecting it, you'll either release too much back pressure and the nose will slam down or you won't release the back pressure quickly enough and you'll risk a tail strike. It really takes a bit of rehearsal to get used to the fast reactions necessary at this stage of the takeoff. After liftoff in ground effect, again, it takes quick reaction and a bit of practice to keep it in ground effect a foot or two above the runway. In addition, you need to be ready to look off the SIDE of the nose. Forward visual reference will immediately disappear when that long nose comes up. The always sensitive pitch control is even more sensitive in this circumstance.  Stay in ground effect with the gear down and the flaps at 20 until you gain safe climb speed (80 knots for us). At 50 feet or so with a positive rate of climb retract the gear. We then retract the flaps in 2 or 3 stages until we're back in a normal climb configuration. 
 
I'm not saying that it's particularly easy to do or that everybody should try it, but it IS possible to do this maneuver consistently and safely with practice. Our Florida house is on a grass strip. We've been using this technique there, as well as sand, gravel, coral, rock and mud strips from Guatemala to Iceland for the past 5 years in our 320.
 
Bill & Sue Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 1,200 hrs
N6ZQ  IV  9.7031%
 
 
 
 
Don't try to do this in your LNC2. Maybe your 152, but not a LNC2. It gets into ground affect,then out of it, then in, then out,etc,etc.It was almost worse than the 1st,"shot out a cannon" takeoff. 
 
Sincerely, Fred N9BF(don't fly like my brother)
 
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